social conflict

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social conflict
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Sun, 10-25-2009 - 6:05pm
Social class is sadly the big player in this situation.

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Registered: 01-08-2009
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 12:08pm
Aren't you saying the exact opposite thing in the parenting thread? That parents should just give anything to their adult children that the adult children ask for? Or in the thread when you think that Catholic Charities should step in for a teen mother even though the child's father is able to work? I am having a hard time understanding your logic here. It seems very inconsistent.
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Registered: 01-09-2009
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 12:47pm

Yeah, those poor people, they're all living it up!

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Mon, 10-26-2009 - 12:55pm
I don't think that the poor are as "well off" as you think, but I agree that the "working poor" or lower middle class people are often the forgotten group in this debate and in this equation. Even the way the debate is framed, often militant WOHMs will give a free pass to women who "have to work," even if their kids are in really bad care situations, preferring to vent their spleen on women who "choose to work" or "work for extras," even though the children of upper-class working women are usually in pretty good care situations.
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Registered: 05-19-2009
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 2:14pm

Thank you! You never fail to amuse me!

Hi kittehs!

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Registered: 05-19-2009
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 2:21pm
In this discussion they would either fall in rich or middle class. It would depend on the income level that you are speaking of. If the family is so easily able to afford a sah, they are probably not middle class. Either upper middle class or off into the rich level.
"It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them." Caron de Beaumarchais

In the frequently relevant (to so many debates on Ivillage) words of Inigio Montoya from The Princess Bride "You keep using that

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Registered: 01-15-2006
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 3:51pm

If the family is so easily able to afford a sah, they are probably not middle class. Either upper middle class or off into the rich level.


how many of these families do you know?

 

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Registered: 01-08-2009
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 3:57pm
I know a lot of families with a SAH parent who can afford a SAH, but not really easily. Some of these families would have the SAH parent in the workforce if there were affordable, quality childcare available, or if a suitable position were available. Some would not, would rather "do without" than have dual working parents. But I think the point was about families that could "easily" afford a SAH. These would be parents who could provide everything for their kids, including "wants" like horseback riding lessons, brand name shoes, cell phones with texting plans even when the kid is annoyed by getting texts, and Y memberships, all on one income. Those families would be your upper middle class or wealthy families.
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Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:13pm

wow,i'm impressed..none of that has to do with fully funded college rides.

 

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Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:36pm
No, it's pretty clear that sending their kids to college isn't a priority for some parents. And that's fine. Kids who want to go will find a way to go, even if it means mortgaging their future incomes to the extent that they themselves will never have the luxury of making the same choices that their parents did. What I don't understand, though, is why the same parents who are having the vapors over other parents saying that they would actually not give their kids money to waste think it's OK not giving their kids money for their education.
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Registered: 05-10-2009
Mon, 10-26-2009 - 4:40pm

I don't think it's a stretch to put "truly privleged" and "upper middle class" in the same category.

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