There are already enough children in the world.

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There are already enough children in the world.
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Thu, 09-19-2013 - 3:59pm

Here's an article where 5 women explain why they chose not to have any children.  http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/5-women-explain-why-chose-not-kids-165300500.html

Did you ever think about not having children?  Like some of the women, would you have had more time to enjoy your husband?  Would you be divorced? Wink  Basically, why did you have children instead of not having children?

If you don't have time for the whole article, some of the reasons included 1.) having a fulfilling life already, 2.) growing up with dysfunctional parents or other close relatives/friends who were miserable because they had kids, 3.) getting to sleep in late, travel the world, not spend the money on kids, 4.) a biggie ~ not feeling the maternal impulse.

Would you life be as happy/fun/fulfilled if you hadn't had children?

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Sat, 09-21-2013 - 2:47pm

mortyswife wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Like your Egypt trip, it can be "saved" for later.  It's not something to blame on the kids.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:x-small"><span>Exactly. She originally said she did not want to go because she had kids and they might be orphans. I wonder if she did NOT have kids if she would have STILL gone?</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:x-small"><span>Bord, can you please answer THAT question.</span></span></strong></p>

Great question.  DH and I would not have gone to Egypt in the years before children.  It has nothing to do with children, and it had little to do with the State Department's warnings.  Of course DH and I knew about the turmoil.  I find it frightening a parent would blame having kids for the alleged deprivation of work opportunities and fun.

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Sat, 09-21-2013 - 2:53pm

mortyswife wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Yes, Thardy, risks vs benefits. Planes crash, but rarely. Therefore, I often choose to fly. I decided not to accept a trip to Egypt because of heightened risk at the time. If I hadn't had kids, I probably would have gone. The risk was still rather small, statistically, and I would be willing to risk my own life, but adding in the dactor of leaving the kids orphaned meant, to me, that the risks outweighed the benefits. That's the way statistics work.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Wow so the risk was not worth YOUR life even if you did NOT have kids. It couldn't have been THAT much of a risk then. </span></strong></p>

No, that's the way language works.  I mean statistics work.  I mean here's a dictionary, lol!  Just joking.  You make an excellent point, Morty, I've been trying to do the same, but biochemistry and my lack of a French to English text make my point a non-starter.  I wish you better luck.

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Sat, 09-21-2013 - 2:56pm

mortyswife wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px"> Also, wouldn't going to a HS football game be an excellent example of parenting drudgery?</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Not to me, I LOVE.IT. I go to every home game and ocassionally travel to away games. </span></strong></p>

Good for you!  I didn't even understand the question, lol.  I LOOOVE watching older dd play school sports now.  I'm so jealous you get to watch swim meets.  I just love the thought of swimming in the winter, and I never had the opportunity to be on a swim team.

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Sat, 09-21-2013 - 3:02pm

mortyswife wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">So it had nothing to do with your having children.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Isn't that amazing? lol. Now it was NOT because of the kids but because of what was going on. Why even bother to mention that then. Use a REAL example. </span></strong></p>

I never throw away anything free.  I'm cheap that way.  But I would have taken those plane trips to Egypt and gladly torn them up into tiny bits and stomped on them.  It would be an insult to give any American tickets to Egypt at that time and certainly a reason to re-think that job. 

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Sat, 09-21-2013 - 3:04pm

mortyswife wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">As I've said repeatedly throughout the thread, Morty, I can't be sure what we would have decided sans the presence of our young children. I think we might have gone, but we might have gotten spooked and decided not to.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">So you should have NOT used this as an example. Simple and plain.</span></strong></p>

You're thinking too logically.  Here's a dictionary.

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Sat, 09-21-2013 - 3:09pm

bordwithyou wrote:
Oh, Morty, I don't know how to explain in any simpler terms that going to Egypt that year really might have been something we would have chosen to do dans children. Perhaps it's time to move to a simpler topic, one with fewer variables. Ketchup or mustard?

Wow.  You've clearly been caught in an inconsistency but will mock Morty's intelligence?  And none of this spills over into your finding socializing so exhausting and frightening.

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Sat, 09-21-2013 - 3:16pm

bordwithyou wrote:
I have no belief that socializing is frightening. It's really not very nice of you to make that up and keep repeating it. And she's the one who asked what the word meant. I thought a dictionary might offer the definition she was seeking.

Wow.  Just wow.  And none of this spills off board to explain your finding socializing to be "frightening?" 

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Now it's becoming boring and drudgery to even try to talk to you, Thardy. You are repeating yourself.
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Also, wouldn't going to a HS football game be an excellent example of parenting drudgery?

It would be to you? 

 

 

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mortyswife wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">What does a plane crash have to do with the Holloway case?  </span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Meaning ANYTHING can happen ANYWHERE.</span></strong></p>

Very good.

 

 

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