There are already enough children in the world.

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Thu, 09-19-2013 - 3:59pm

Here's an article where 5 women explain why they chose not to have any children.  http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/5-women-explain-why-chose-not-kids-165300500.html

Did you ever think about not having children?  Like some of the women, would you have had more time to enjoy your husband?  Would you be divorced? Wink  Basically, why did you have children instead of not having children?

If you don't have time for the whole article, some of the reasons included 1.) having a fulfilling life already, 2.) growing up with dysfunctional parents or other close relatives/friends who were miserable because they had kids, 3.) getting to sleep in late, travel the world, not spend the money on kids, 4.) a biggie ~ not feeling the maternal impulse.

Would you life be as happy/fun/fulfilled if you hadn't had children?

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Mon, 09-23-2013 - 9:55pm

"Reminds me  of the guidance that military wives are given when their husbands are coming home from deployment. They are highly encouraged to not initiate sex ... for several days."

I didn't say they weren't allowed to have intimacy. 

Yes, you did, for several days.

And it isn't "hearsay" as I saw and read the guidance documents.

Why would you be interested in these and why would someone come out and show someone these?

I said nothing about what happened in their bedrooms the night they came home. I'm not crass enough to ask those questions.

So you really do NOT know but you said that They are highly encouraged to not initiate sex ... for several days." 

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Mon, 09-23-2013 - 9:56pm

"I didn't say they weren't allowed to have intimacy. And it isn't "hearsay" as I saw and read the guidance documents. I said nothing about what happened in their bedrooms the night they came home. I'm not crass enough to ask those questions." That really would be crass!

But not crass enough to read private guidance documents that are intended for military wifes? Yeah, gotcha.

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mortyswife wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Thardy, because the way I understand it,<strong> you can go to hell for lying.</strong></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Wow, really?</span></strong></p>

I found thardys comment interesting, falsely directed at bord of course since it wasn't her who introduced the topic but you....how unkind of her to say such things about a "friend".

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Mon, 09-23-2013 - 10:00pm

I found thardys comment interesting, falsely directed at bord of course since it wasn't her who introduced the topic but you....how unkind of her to say such things about a "friend".

I don't CARE what the HECK Thardy said, that was just UNCALLED for. 

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Mon, 09-23-2013 - 10:00pm

mortyswife wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">My husband is a combat veteran, 18 months deployed. This is not news to him.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">We kind of figured that one out. Bawahhhaaa...</span></strong></p>

Why are you so obessed with bord's personal life with her dh?  You introduced the subject, you have made up things about the subject and you continue to talk about this....why?  Talk about a strange diversion when one can't debate the topic.

PumpkinAngel

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Mon, 09-23-2013 - 10:01pm

mortyswife wrote:
<p><strong><span style="background-color:#f6f6f6">"</span><span style="background-color:#f6f6f6; font-size:13px">Reminds me  of the guidance that military wives are given when their husbands are coming home from deployment. They are highly encouraged to not initiate sex ... for several days."</span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size:13px">I didn't say they weren't allowed to have intimacy. </span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Yes, you did, for several days.</span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size:13px">And it isn't "hearsay" as I saw and read the guidance documents.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Why would you be interested in these and why would someone come out and show someone these?</span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size:13px">I said nothing about what happened in their bedrooms the night they came home. I'm not crass enough to ask those questions.</span></p><p><span style="font-size:13px">So you really do NOT know but you said that </span><strong><span style="background-color:#f6f6f6; font-size:13px">They are highly encouraged to not initiate sex ... for several days." </span></strong></p>

No, I said they were advised to not initiate sex.   1 - advised, not ordered   2 - "to not initiate", not refuse sex

I was interested because they were my friends and they were both excited and apprehensive about their husbands returning from 6 months at sea.  

I KNOW what they were advised. I never indicated that I knew what actually happened.  

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Mon, 09-23-2013 - 10:01pm

Why are you so obessed with bord's personal life with her dh?  You introduced the subject, you have made up things about the subject and you continue to talk about this....why?  Talk about a strange diversion when one can't debate the topic.

Ummmm....I did NOT introduce the subject. We just went through this, please re-read the thread.

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Mon, 09-23-2013 - 10:02pm

savcal2011 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">mortyswife</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px"&gt;I can't explain that for you.  I can only talk about what I've experienced with my Navy wife friends.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:13px"&gt;Sorry to hear about their experience then.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>What are you sorry for? The only negative in their experiences was a 6-month separation from their spouse.  Please, don't create negativity and pity where there is none.</p>

I don't understand the constant need to make up things.

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Mon, 09-23-2013 - 10:02pm

mortyswife wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">"I didn't say they weren't allowed to have intimacy. And it isn't "hearsay" as I saw and read the guidance documents. I said nothing about what happened in their bedrooms the night they came home. I'm not crass enough to ask those questions." That really would be crass!</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">But not crass enough to read private guidance documents that are intended for military wifes? Yeah, gotcha.</span></strong></p>

What makes you think they were private documents?

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Mon, 09-23-2013 - 10:04pm

bordwithyou wrote:
"&lt;&gt; Then why all the comments and questions about her personal life?" I know, right? How's life in the big city, PKA? I'm going to be busting through about supper time Thursday on the way to Indiana.

Right, I guess we need to use the old double standard.  Again.  Life is pretty good...will you have time to stop or just wave as you go by?  

PumpkinAngel

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