Thoughts about this??

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Thoughts about this??
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Tue, 03-27-2007 - 11:53am

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Registered: 07-26-2006
Tue, 04-17-2007 - 5:52pm

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This is absolutely hilarious. Either show me what you are basing this statement on or I will no longer respond to you.

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Yes that is correct. Some children dont NEED to suck as much as others. You keep telling me that children have this need to suck. This I disagree on. I think babies do, children no.

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I am trying. Yet you wont show me your data.

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How can I make an educated decision about something that I havent researched? If you havent heard of that that is scary. I tend not to make a decision about things without knowing the facts.

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Tue, 04-17-2007 - 5:55pm
Nothing there that says this is universal for all babies. My sister has a child that has a swallowing problem. When she was an infant she barely ate at all. She hated the sucking motion and would only nurse for small periods of time but more often. The sucking was work for her. So this case alone would blow your theory that this need is universal.
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Registered: 10-12-2006
Tue, 04-17-2007 - 5:55pm

Happy reading! BTW, here are some excerpts that I found particularly salient.

http://www.naturalfamilyonline.com/go/index.php/253/nursing-isnt-just-breastfeeding/

"Breastfeeding has taken quite a bashing over the last century. In order to rebuild acceptance of breastfeeding, breastfeeding advocates have focused on the importance its nutritive and immune support roles. BUT BREASTFEEDING IS DESIGNED TO BE MUCH MORE THAN JUST PROVIDING FOOD — IT IS A TIME FOR NURSING, A TIME FOR COMFORT AND NUTURING. This is a time for studying and memorizing each other’s faces, for speaking or singing to your baby and developing her trust and nonverbal communication."

"Babies clearly seek nursing in order to ease the pain of a bump or illness, to relieve stress or to regain security after being frightened. It’s obviously effective. AND WHENEVER ALLOWED, BABIES USUALLY ENGAGE IN COMFORT NURSING LONG AFTER NUTRITION NEEDS HAVE BEEN SATIATED, DEEPING THE SOOTHING, THE BONDING, AND THE EDUCATION RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MOTHER AND CHILD."

"And when allowed, your baby’s powerful imprint on your pheromonal messages is second only TO HIS PROGRAMMED NEED AND YEARNING FOR SUCKING."

More to follow :)

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Registered: 07-26-2006
Tue, 04-17-2007 - 5:58pm

Well again we are back to the universal thing. Nothing there says universal. Not to mention my children nursed on a schedule and didnt like pacifiers. So there is another not universal child for you.

Let me clear something up for you so you will stop yelling. When I have stated that I didnt comfort nurse that meant, if my child fell down, or was scared I didnt nurse them. I have no doubt my children relaxed while nursing, but I dont think it was the nursing that did this. I think it was getting the food they wanted. I nursed my children for many reasons I just chose not to use it as a way to comfort my children.

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Registered: 10-12-2006
Tue, 04-17-2007 - 5:58pm

Here are some more excerpts for you :)

"THE IMPORTANCE OF SUCKING TO A BABY'S COMFORT AND WELL BEING IS WELL DEMOSTRATED. In a Chicago sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) study, bottle-fed infants who enjoyed the added use of a pacifier (WHICH MAKES UP FOR COMFORT NURSING TIME) had only one-third the rate of SIDS as those who did not use pacifiers, and those who breastfed had only one-fifth the rate of SIDS."

"EEG STUDIES OF BABIES' BRAINS WHILE SUCKING AT THE BREAST DEMONSTRATE INCREASED ACTIVITY IN AREAS OF THE BRAIN THAT GOVERN ALERTNESS AND ATTENTION AS WELL AS IN AREAS THAT CONTROL THE CYCLE OF SLEEPING AND WAKING. Bottle-feeding produces similar but smaller changes in brain patterns."

"Many babies who are fed on strict schedules or quickly removed from the breast or bottle as soon as active feeding is done will seek a thumb or finger to suck on or take to a pacifier. THIS DEMONSTRATES THEIR STRONG INBORN REQUIREMENT FOR MORE COMFORT SUCKING."

Still more to follow :)

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Tue, 04-17-2007 - 6:00pm
Where is the universal to all children part?
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Tue, 04-17-2007 - 6:06pm

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"Yes that is correct. Some children dont NEED to suck as much as others. You keep telling me that children have this need to suck. This I disagree on. I think babies do, children no."

We aren't discussing the NEED to suck as much as others, simply the BIOLOGICAL NEED TO SUCK.

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Tue, 04-17-2007 - 6:14pm

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"How can I make an educated decision about something that I havent researched? If you havent heard of that that is scary. I tend not to make a decision about things without knowing the facts."

This is precisely the point several posters have repeatedly tried to point out to you.

That it makes no sense to make blanket statements, especially about something you haven't researched.

Now do you get it?

Now do you understand why people keep asking you to back up your opinions with something other than your own opinion?

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Tue, 04-17-2007 - 6:21pm

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Uh no.

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I havent. YOU did. You stated that this was universal to all children. Gonna show me that data or what?

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No. I am not making an opinion statement. I am making a DECISION based on facts. You are very confused if you think making a decision about something and having an opinion are the same.

Oh yeah...where is that data about all children needing to suck is universal? Isnt that a blanket statement? LOL




Edited 4/17/2007 6:22 pm ET by mbanc17
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Tue, 04-17-2007 - 6:24pm

"Not to mention my children nursed on a schedule"

First you said you didn't nurse on demand.

Then you said you did nurse on demand.

Then you said you nursed on demand as well as on a schedule.

Now you're saying you nursed on a schedule.

How am I to believe anything you say?

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