"We don 't believe in that [WOHM]"

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Registered: 11-11-2005
"We don 't believe in that [WOHM]"
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Mon, 01-09-2006 - 11:31am

On Friday, as I was driving hom from work, I stumbled across an interview with the wife of the one surviving miner from the collapse in WVa. In the course of the interview, someone asked her if she worked.

Her response was that they don't believe in that. She explained that her husband was very proud of the fact that he was the sole supporter of the family, and that he didn't need her help in supporting them. She explained that they just don't believe in women working after they have kids and husbands, and that they believe her place is at home with the kids.

My heart really goes out to her, and this post isn't about her, but about the sentiment that women shouldn't work because their place is at home. And being a real man, even if it means working in dangerous conditions, long hours, holding two jobs and being a step away from poverty at every turn, means that your wife doesn't work.

I suppose this is the first time that I've heard someone, not a movie character or a character in a book, express this sentiment. I don't understand why anyone would be proud to limit their spouse's potential. Or why be proud that you live right on the poverty line?

If they didn't see the dangers of their POV before, surely that entire community, and even the whole country, has now seen the risk that we talk about on here all the time, the risk that suddenly the SAHM will need to find a way to financially support the family. I wonder if anyone will re-think what they believe in.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
I vote for lunch near where ikatarama works so all 3 of us can meet (if you ever find yourself in DC during daytime hours.....)

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Registered: 03-27-2003

I've never taught Sunday school period. So I admit I'm on pretty shaky ground when debating it with people who actually do teach it. I'll definately concede your point. I guess what I see as concrete and very secular values that get taught to children by their parents are also being called religious values. I hear dd say the words "Mary is Jesus's mommy" but I don't think it has any broader meaning for her than when she also says "Mrs. Jones is Suzy's mommy."

So here is my question for a Sunday school teacher. What are the religious values that are taught to a 5yo as part of religious instruction that are not exactly the same as secular values that a preschool teacher either teaches or reinforces to a child in a non-religious setting?

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Registered: 08-22-2005
Works for me; name your day. I just got 156 hours of leave; I can take a day or two off to be awake during the day :)

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Registered: 05-01-2003
Speaking as a religious ed teacher for (6-8 years now), it is prayer, primarily and basic stuff about God. In the Catholic religion anyway, the k-1 grades are taught the Our Father as their primary prayer. You would never see God even mentioned in pre-school unless it was a church-related preschool.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
OK, we just need IK to weigh in here.

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Registered: 11-22-2005
Well, it depends on the religion. I know I teach them certain cathoilc beliefs that are not taught in preschool. Bread and wine ARE the body and blood of Christ, not just a symbol (that's an examply, I don't expect five year olds to grasp that one), that one I teach my older kids. Just thinks that relate to the catholic faith as a whole, our prayers, what they specifically mean. Teach them who them about the father, the son, and the holy spirit. They do get it, and grasp, most of the time, what I teach them.
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No, MT3, it's an actual medical condition, not just a perspective. Whether one considers themselves infertile or not, if you try for over 12 mths and don't conceive, you are infertile.

Unfortunately, I am something of an expert in this area.

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Thanks!
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Registered: 11-22-2005
I just posted almost the same thing, then I read your post. Nice to see I'm thinking and explaining on the right level.
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Registered: 11-03-2005

You're confusing sterility with infertility. Infertility can refer to a reduced ability, a difficult ability, or no ability. Sterility is strictly no ability.

My co-worker is sterile; she has Turner's syndrome. My good friend is infertile; she needs fertility drugs to help her conceive.

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