What does feminism mean to you?

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What does feminism mean to you?
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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 6:20am

I noted that feminism was touched upon in another thread and that people involved in the discussion seemed to have different definitions and outlooks on feminism. I'm curious about all of these different views and definitions not only as a student, but in the context of the WOH/SAH debate. 

FWIW, this wouldn't be the first place that I've heard about varying levels of feminism. I once stumbled across a group of women who were proud to tell me that they were anti-feminist, because they didn't hate men and they enjoyed wearing bras and having babies.

So, what does feminism mean to you? Do you think that feminism is big and complex enough to have multiple definitions?

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:27pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
There are other factors that play a role there, It's nice to pick and chose to make your point though....

Feel free to reply with your personal choice of links to research that shows otherwise to cement your point. 

I thought that's what debate is. 

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:30pm

bordwithyou wrote:
I don't know where you're going to college, Jams, but you know, up until quite recently women were denied access to higher education for fear thinking too hard would make their uteruses fall out. You can thank some "women's libber" that you have the chance to go to school just like the Penis People.

I can't speak for others, but I got menstrual cramps just lifting a science book.

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:42pm

bordwithyou wrote:
I don't know where you're going to college, Jams, but you know, up until quite recently women were denied access to higher education for fear thinking too hard would make their uteruses fall out. You can thank some "women's libber" that you have the chance to go to school just like the Penis People.

I'm a perpetual student but I'll be sure to warn my kids of this!

 


 


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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:45pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
One glance at one of your links tells me it's still individually driven. And don't play gender politics on me, I don't buy what you're selling, Lol! I won't hover over my girls and tell that what fields they should enter b/c they need to make some female impression nor do I want them following somebody elses goals or dreams.

Forgive me, I don't speak your magic telescope language. I need you to clarify your position.

You deny that the gender gap exists? Moreover, you will be perfectly content w/your daughters earning a percentage of what your son makes just because they have ovaries and he has a penis. Correct? Because that's essentially what you just said.

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:46pm

Feminists have a chip on their shoulder.  Sorry - had to borrow that from my idol Marissa Mayer. lol. 

I've never been a feminist.  I believe in meritocracy.  There were more women in my law school class than men about 2 decades ago.  Same goes for every lawyer I've asked.  When I worked at a white shoe firm, same deal.  Half and half.  Equal pay, benefits and even bonuses ~ those starting out in their first year got $A, second year associate $B, and so on.  I don't believe in the special treatment of women.  I've rarely seen this phenomenon of reaching back to bring my sister along with me.  You can see it on this very message board with the treatment of Jams ~ What do you mean "feminine"  I have no idea what you're talking about.  Reread you post and slowly.   I got a perfect score on reading comprehension (? um, okay) on the ACT ya know?   Gag me.  Grow up, sisters, and at least be civil.

Anyway, feminism holds no meaning to me.  I'm with Jams.

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:55pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p>Feminists have a chip on their shoulder.  Sorry - had to borrow that from my idol Marissa Mayer. lol. </p><p>I've never been a feminist.  I believe in meritocracy.  There were more women in my law school class than men about 2 decades ago.  Same goes for every lawyer I've asked.  When I worked at a white shoe firm, same deal.  Half and half.  Equal pay, benefits and even bonuses ~ those starting out in their first year got $A, second year associate $B, and so on.  I don't believe in the special treatment of women.  I've rarely seen this phenomenon of reaching back to bring my sister along with me.  You can see it on this very message board with the treatment of Jams ~ <em>What do you mean "feminine"  I have no idea what you're talking about.  Reread you post and slowly.   I got a perfect score on reading comprehension (? um, okay) on the ACT ya know?</em>   Gag me.  Grow up, sisters, and at least be civil.</p><p>Anyway, feminism holds no meaning to me.  I'm with Jams.</p>

Pot. I'd like for you to meet the kettle...

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:56pm

bordwithyou wrote:
I don't know where you're going to college, Jams, but you know, up until quite recently women were denied access to higher education for fear thinking too hard would make their uteruses fall out. You can thank some "women's libber" that you have the chance to go to school just like the Penis People.

Lyndon B johnson was a women's libber? 'kay.

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 10:46pm

BeaArthurisMyReligion wrote:
<p>I absolutely think it's broad enough to encompass many meaings.  For me in an ideal world Feminism means supporting the choices of all women, no matter what they may be,  working, not working, children, birth control, choice,  etc.. it means ensuring open doors and access to educational opportunities at all levels, equal pay for equal work, shattering the glass ceiling and then reaching back to help other women through,  it means empowering girls to speak up and show their smarts and not feel self concsious for being smart -- it means an end to strong women like Secretary Clinton having to 'mansplain' to the panel of old white men how she does her job.   It means an end to sexist jokes and sexual harrassment, it means a world where the concept of a women president isn't that far off, and most of all world where women support each other rather than look for ways to tear each other down.  That's what it means to me.</p>

I was having a hard time putting it into words, you said it perfectly.  

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 10:48pm
Jams, I'm fine with your daughters - and everyone else's daughters - being allowed to articulate and follow their own dreams without some retrograde jackass telling them its impossible to "have it all" because only men can have careers AND families.
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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 10:51pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Nah, Not interested research on womens lib! Lol! But let me ask you something if I can.. Is my PhD department dean deserving of more pay than the PhD professors that just teach some of his classes? </p><p> </p>

 As a woman, as a mother...I can't imagine not being interested in what it means to be a woman in todays world.  I can't imagine not teaching my children (and mine are boys) the history.  But this goes hand in hand with your comments on another thread about limiting dreams of children.

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