What does feminism mean to you?

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What does feminism mean to you?
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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 6:20am

I noted that feminism was touched upon in another thread and that people involved in the discussion seemed to have different definitions and outlooks on feminism. I'm curious about all of these different views and definitions not only as a student, but in the context of the WOH/SAH debate. 

FWIW, this wouldn't be the first place that I've heard about varying levels of feminism. I once stumbled across a group of women who were proud to tell me that they were anti-feminist, because they didn't hate men and they enjoyed wearing bras and having babies.

So, what does feminism mean to you? Do you think that feminism is big and complex enough to have multiple definitions?

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 7:21am
" Don't slide the offer to a less qualified woman just b/c, well.... she has ovaries." ---------- Nobody has suggested such a thing. All people have pointed out is that discrimination and inequality still exist. You now seem to be saying that you know the inequality exists, but you don't want to say that it exists, because that would be equivalent to affirmative action. It is not.
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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 7:21am

I'll take it that you don't know what raising grounded children looks like. 

 


 


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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 7:24am

rollmops2009 wrote:
<p>Regina, nice links, but Jam already said that she is not interested in research on this issue. I am guessing because she feels she knows better.</p>

I have some thesis ideas, Yes, They're better than this topic.

 


 


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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 7:25am
"I'll take it that you don't know what raising grounded children looks like. " ----------I don't know this is addressed to, but I have no idea what that has to do with anything. Do you mean that grounded kids won't be discriminated against?
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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 7:26am
"I have some thesis ideas, Yes, They're better than this topic" ------- How do you mean? What do you think is the reason for the achievement gap between men and women?
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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 7:38am
I don't know who or what the "raising ground kids" comment is aimed at, Jams, but I can say this: No one ever won a debate or won the respect of decent people by insulting children.
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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 8:25am

you don't think men were a part of the women's liberation movement and still are? of course they are, just as whites were and are part of the civil rights movement and straight allies were and are a part of the marriage equality movement...

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 8:31am

Here's are some anecdote about why I've always been and always will be a feminist.  When I was in 7th grade we had to do poster projects for my social studies class.. I did one on the Equal Rights Amendment which was then a hot topic on congress... the boys in my class tore my poster off the wall, and ripped it up and my male social studies teacher laughed and told me "that's what you get with that women's lib stuff."   That fueled me for the rest of my life.  

Flash forward to the 2008 Presidential election.  My daughter was 9 years old and the worlds most energetic fervent Hillary Clinton supporter.  When Hillary lost the nomination she was devastated.  I told her that it was still a very historic occassion with our first African American nominee... she looked at me like I had two heads and asked what was so special about that.  And I realized that for her the race issue was a nonstarter-- she has friends who are black, latino, asian, from Sudan and Somalia, from Korea, and from EasterN European countries.. her world was color blind.  But as she explained to me she heard all day long on her playground-- "girls can't.. girl's cant'  she saw it in the history books "girls' weren't girls aren't"  and for her to have a woman president was the dream of her 9 year old budding feminists heart.  

I want a world where a woman president is no big deal, where my daughter doesn't have to look forward to a working life of 73 cents to every man's dollar, where she doesn't have to 'explain' to the white men in power that she is smart enough, good enough, saavy enough.   This year my state elected an entiredly female delegation to Congress and the senate and we have a woman governor.   She sees the ceiling starting to shatter and i know in her life time that last final one will be broken and for her that is why I am and always will be a feminist.

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 8:33am

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>That would be wrong but good luck with your theories, My happy, well rounded children are being raised to not think of themselves as different and I can't fathom why a mom would raise her daughter to believe that, Or to think she must live up to somebody else's standard or expectation.   Please do re-visit the helicopter thread and define that for me, Thanks.</p><p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">reginageorge2005</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;jamblessedthree&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;One glance at one of your links tells me it's still individually driven. And don't play gender politics on me, I don't buy what you're selling, Lol! I won't hover over my girls and tell that what fields they should enter b/c they need to make some female impression nor do I want them following somebody elses goals or dreams.

Reginageorge wrote:
...You deny that the gender gap exists? Moreover, you will be perfectly content w/your daughters earning a percentage of what your son makes just because they have ovaries and he has a penis. Correct? Because that's essentially what you just said.

Really well said, Jams.  I can't imagine raising girls to believe they are pegged for lesse salaries and less job oportunities because they have ovaries.  Forgetting that that language is crass and beneath me, it is gender biased.  It wounds the mentality of both girls and boys alike.  You are correct ~ the workforce is very much an individual's game to win, it's a meritocracy. 

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 8:34am

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>I'll take it that you don't know what raising grounded children looks like. </p>

Jams, it seems shocking in this day and age.  But maybe not. Frown

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