What does feminism mean to you?

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What does feminism mean to you?
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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 6:20am

I noted that feminism was touched upon in another thread and that people involved in the discussion seemed to have different definitions and outlooks on feminism. I'm curious about all of these different views and definitions not only as a student, but in the context of the WOH/SAH debate. 

FWIW, this wouldn't be the first place that I've heard about varying levels of feminism. I once stumbled across a group of women who were proud to tell me that they were anti-feminist, because they didn't hate men and they enjoyed wearing bras and having babies.

So, what does feminism mean to you? Do you think that feminism is big and complex enough to have multiple definitions?

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 8:31pm

Nah, Not interested research on womens lib! Lol! But let me ask you something if I can.. Is my PhD department dean deserving of more pay than the PhD professors that just teach some of his classes? 

 

 

 

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 8:50pm
Dean and professor are two different jobs. They aren't comparable. But here's a statistic. In MU field, women earn 55% of he PhDs, get 48% of the tenure track jobs, get tenure 7% of the time less than men, and make up 30% of the full professorate and 15% of administration. Coincidence? I think not!
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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:00pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>I think I misread the title of the discussion, Ha, Thanks! Feminist is a more common word than feminism IMO and about raising daughters, I'm not so caught up into what you are perhaps, Aside from shopping style and differences You'll have to prove to me where the unequal "playing field" is. All of my kids are in co-ed sports but I expect that to change once DS starts middle school soccer. In so far as career direction I won't encourage or discourage any one thing, I truly don't think there's enough evidence that women are paid less on the dollar than men for the same job/requiring the same skills, Many, many males and females work side by side anymore. </p>

Not enough evidence? Did you hit the dinner prep wine early tonight or are you just spectacularly clueless about the general oppression of your gender? The evidence is quite overwhelming and no one actually denies that a wage gap exists. Obama had this to say: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/obama-on-gender-equality-we-are-not-done-yet/

A simple Google search unearths a wealth of information:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2012/10/24/gender-pay-gap/1652511/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasserly/2012/10/24/the-global-gender-gap-is-closing-but-the-u-s-is-still-failing-its-women/

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/10/24/gender-pay-gap-persists-new-female-grads-earn-7-600-less-than/

http://www.womensmedia.com/new/Lips-Hilary-gender-wage-gap.shtml

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.learningsolutionsmag.com/assets/images/learningsolutions/071410/071410_f8b.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.learningsolutionsmag.com/articles/490/&h=446&w=800&sz=96&tbnid=qhMyhmRsNjrLwM:&tbnh=68&tbnw=122&zoom=1&usg=__uBtmbT2WktQhlHDubs-D_uYF0R4=&docid=j3aiQaEsxmxLdM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xU81UbyNKcSTqwG05oGwAw&ved=0CHAQ9QEwBw&dur=362

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.glassdoor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/engineering-gender-pay-gap.png&imgrefurl=http://www.glassdoor.com/blog/engineering-pay-gap-glassdoor-reveals-many-women-engineers-earn-less-than-men/&h=362&w=610&sz=17&tbnid=hylm9SM_qoxpbM:&tbnh=72&tbnw=122&zoom=1&usg=__fr4ujsuEOzFdENUgMpZnhWedewY=&docid=0H_54A0lO3IeyM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xU81UbyNKcSTqwG05oGwAw&ved=0CHMQ9QEwCA&dur=330

How can you, as the mother of DAUGHTERS, not recognize that this is a prevalent issue that will absolutely affect them? That horrifies me.

I haven't personally experienced genital mutilation or the Holocaust, but I don't deny the existence of either when the evidence is overwhelming clear that both exist/existed.

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:02pm
There are other factors that play a role there, It's nice to pick and chose to make your point though....

 


 


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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:03pm

bordwithyou wrote:
Dean and professor are two different jobs. They aren't comparable. But here's a statistic. In MU field, women earn 55% of he PhDs, get 48% of the tenure track jobs, get tenure 7% of the time less than men, and make up 30% of the full professorate and 15% of administration. Coincidence? I think not!

Pfffft. There's no gender gap. None at all. <snort>

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:05pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
There are other factors that play a role there, It's nice to pick and chose to make your point though....

What other factors play a role, JAM? Are you saying Obama is wrong about the gender gap? Countless other studies are wrong and we're supposed to take your word that "other" factors are at play? SERIOUSLY?! 

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:12pm
I don't know where you're going to college, Jams, but you know, up until quite recently women were denied access to higher education for fear thinking too hard would make their uteruses fall out. You can thank some "women's libber" that you have the chance to go to school just like the Penis People.
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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:20pm

I've always been a feminist-- from the time in Kindergarten when the boys told me I couldn't play football because I was girl.  I was slightly optimistic about women in the workplace, in my female-dominated profession, despite statistics that show that women are vastly underrepresented in adminstration, if you look at the percentage of men in librarianship vs. the percentage of men in library administration.  But, I had quite the eye opener when I started taking computer science classes and math classes.  In my Calculus 3 class, I am one of 5 girls in a class of 40 people.  

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:21pm

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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 9:25pm
One glance at one of your links tells me it's still individually driven. And don't play gender politics on me, I don't buy what you're selling, Lol! I won't hover over my girls and tell that what fields they should enter b/c they need to make some female impression nor do I want them following somebody elses goals or dreams.

 


 


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