What does feminism mean to you?

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What does feminism mean to you?
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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 6:20am

I noted that feminism was touched upon in another thread and that people involved in the discussion seemed to have different definitions and outlooks on feminism. I'm curious about all of these different views and definitions not only as a student, but in the context of the WOH/SAH debate. 

FWIW, this wouldn't be the first place that I've heard about varying levels of feminism. I once stumbled across a group of women who were proud to tell me that they were anti-feminist, because they didn't hate men and they enjoyed wearing bras and having babies.

So, what does feminism mean to you? Do you think that feminism is big and complex enough to have multiple definitions?

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Mon, 03-11-2013 - 9:23am
I will never be in the position that pays anything other than a very low six-figure salary if that, but I have both been the recipient of good female mentoring and have offered it up myself. I really haven't experienced the "Wonen hate successful Women" mentality some posit. I know there are a few women who don't like other women, but thankfully, that hasn't been my experience.
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Mon, 03-11-2013 - 11:45am

You know what I'm talking about, Lol! And she answered the rich snob criticisms wtih grace, she's smart enough to know that not everybody can afford her lifestyle and her dcp arrangements but that the motivation/determintaion/drive is univeral if that's really what a woman wants, There will always be those who blame their problems on somebody else though.

 


 


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Mon, 03-11-2013 - 2:15pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>You know what I'm talking about, Lol! And she answered the rich snob criticisms wtih grace, she's smart enough to know that not everybody can afford her lifestyle and her dcp arrangements but that the motivation/determintaion/drive is univeral if that's really what a woman wants, There will always be those who blame their problems on somebody else though.</p>

Exactly!  And Sandberg's a genius and deserves to work on the cutting edge of technology (first Google, now here, what next) rather than, as she thought, not-for-profits.  The way she's handled all of these opportunistic female critics is truly a credit to her worldliness and experience. 

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Mon, 03-11-2013 - 2:16pm

bordwithyou wrote:
I will never be in the position that pays anything other than a very low six-figure salary if that, but I have both been the recipient of good female mentoring and have offered it up myself. I really haven't experienced the "Wonen hate successful Women" mentality some posit. I know there are a few women who don't like other women, but thankfully, that hasn't been my experience.

It's funny, it was a male superior/boss who said that to me: Women hate women.  He was talking about the workplace, of course.  Soon after his comment, 3 of the female partners were fired.  Anyway, you are too kind and fairminded, I doubt you would see the whole women hating on each other thing.   I saw it.  ;)  Often.  For instance, when my female superior threw my Appeal draft back in my face, across her desk, I saw it. lol!  I had no idea what problem she had with my writing ~ her nastiness was a pretext for something else.  She was one of the 3 fired. :)

I don't think women who've broken thru the glass ceiling need to write such books unless they saw there is this problem among women.  Sheryl Sandberg, Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem.  And the wave of female critics over Sandberg's deigning to dialogue this as a problem ~ Maureen Dowd, Jodi Kantor, Ann marie Slaughter ~ have all dogpiled poor Sandberg.  I'm sure Sandberg'll think twice before she invests too much time in her Lean In theory.  You know what they say about the Messenger. 

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Tue, 03-12-2013 - 8:33pm

<And Sandberg's a genius and deserves to work on the cutting edge of technology (first Google, now here, what next) rather than, as she thought, not-for-profits.>

Sandberg is a supremely innovative capitalist. If making personal and corporate wealth makes one a "genuis", then I don't agree. Jobs was closer to a genius in that he really made something cool that people want and it transformed modern computing and communication. Zuckerberg did something quite clever that serendipiteously resulted in billions, but cutting edge technology it is not.

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Wed, 03-13-2013 - 7:20am

Could facebook have worked in any other medium than technology.. Google?

 (Curiosity here b/c we were talking at school about library and other things becoming obsolete someday thanks to advances in TECHNOLOGY!).

 


 


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Wed, 03-13-2013 - 8:13am

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;You know what I'm talking about, Lol! And she answered the rich snob criticisms wtih grace, she's smart enough to know that not everybody can afford her lifestyle and her dcp arrangements but that the motivation/determintaion/drive is univeral if that's really what a woman wants, <span style="text-decoration:underline"><strong>There will always be those who blame their problems on somebody else though</strong></span>.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Exactly!  And Sandberg's a genius and deserves to work on the cutting edge of technology (first Google, now here, what next) rather than, as she thought, not-for-profits.  The way she's handled all of these opportunistic female critics is truly a credit to her worldliness and experience.  </p>

Yep, Emphasis on her worldliness and experience. 

 


 


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Wed, 03-13-2013 - 10:20pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Could facebook have worked in any other medium than technology.. Google?</p><p> (Curiosity here b/c we were talking at school about library and other things becoming obsolete someday thanks to advances in TECHNOLOGY!).</p>

I'm not sure what you are asking? Could Google+ or another hot online community take away Facebook market share? Sure, think MySpace.

Public libraries have the opportunity to reinvent themselves, just like anyone else in the new age of information. It's about transformation, not obsolescence. Bricks and mortar for personal community and personal connection, eg story hours. books clubs , and online presence for new tech.

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Wed, 03-13-2013 - 10:44pm

[quotPublic libraries have the opportunity to reinvent themselves, just like anyone else in the new age of information. It's about transformation, not obsolescence. Bricks and mortar for personal community and personal connection, eg story hours. books clubs , and online presence for new tech.</p>[/quote]

Right, I do not think that libraries wil become obsolete but they have changed with the times. 

When I was a kid you had to look in a card catalog for a book,  now you look in a computer.

 Libraries have computers for use by those that do not  have home computers, not much different from when I was a kid and would go to the library to use encyclopedias.

You can download library books on to tablets, just a high tech way of checking out a book. 

I have always been a library lover. got out of the habit in the last few years.  I have happily made it part of my normal routine again. 

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Thu, 03-14-2013 - 6:50am

Eh, Facebook was a small idea that grew and it blew Myspace away, Zuckerberg and Sandberg are the engines behind that.   Is Myspace even still around? I don't know about libraries, Maybe real life librarians will be replaced by robots then.

 


 


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