What does feminism mean to you?

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What does feminism mean to you?
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Mon, 03-04-2013 - 6:20am

I noted that feminism was touched upon in another thread and that people involved in the discussion seemed to have different definitions and outlooks on feminism. I'm curious about all of these different views and definitions not only as a student, but in the context of the WOH/SAH debate. 

FWIW, this wouldn't be the first place that I've heard about varying levels of feminism. I once stumbled across a group of women who were proud to tell me that they were anti-feminist, because they didn't hate men and they enjoyed wearing bras and having babies.

So, what does feminism mean to you? Do you think that feminism is big and complex enough to have multiple definitions?

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 10:00am

bordwithyou wrote:
I also have quite a few graduate students whom I must prepare for the realities of the job market. Pretending gender discrimination doesn't exist is not going to help them recognize and fight it.

If you don't want someone here calling you a professor, why keep bringing up the fact that you're preparing graduate students for the job market?  Curious.

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 10:07am
The issue was being addressed as "Professor." The poster in question and I have no professional relationship, and in the context of this board, the proper way to address each other is by user name. Using any other form of address, either a professional title or a personal name, assumes a relationship or a degree of intimacy that I do not wish to grant.
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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 10:08am

lifespeachy wrote:
  As the mother of both a boy and a girl, this issue hits close to home.  As a realist, I think that I understand what jams is trying to say.  Boys and girls ARE different, and are often quallified for different "jobs".  However, I think the part that she is missing is that there are many, many more where men and women alike can and do perform similarly, where a man will be hired, or where men and women work side by side, doing the same job, and men get paid more.  In general, women ARE expected to carry the load of home and family, even if she is a wohm, and even if dad doesn't have that expectation, his employer likely does.</p><p>As a woman, I am thankful for the women before me, who fought for equality, so that I have a choice to woh or to sah.   But I will admit that, personally, I struggle with the whole "you can have it all" debate.  As much as I would love to not limit my kids (boy or girl) learning to balance woh and family life has been a challenge for me personally, and I am often conflicted with feelings of neglecting one for the other.

I agree 100%.  The part about men and women being better suited for certain jobs also plays into some of the stereotypes employers cling to.  Women are better writers, men speak better in public, the math, science stereotypes too.

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 10:11am

I am NOT in fact a professor.  There, I said it.  Anyone else?  Wink

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 10:12am

Um, I was speaking more along the lines of physical abilities.  The stereotypes that employers cling to are the ones that continue to promote inequality.

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 10:14am

I will join you Thardy.

Apparently, you are not a professor.

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 10:14am

lifespeachy wrote:
<p>Um, I was speaking more along the lines of physical abilities.  The stereotypes that employers cling to are the ones that continue to promote inequality.</p>

Um, I thought that was understood.

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 10:15am

BeaArthurisMyReligion wrote:
<p>yes employment decisions are made case by case.. but check the salaries after the employement decisoin and you often find a different story.  </p>

How common is negotiating a salary before accepting an offer? 

 


 


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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 10:18am

it's intensely difficult for women writers to be seen as serious or skilled as their male counterparts.. .I work with many writers and am one myself and the gender bias in the publishing world and in the screeplay world and playwriting world is very significant

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Tue, 03-05-2013 - 10:20am

in some fields common, in others not, (see my previous post about pink collar workers, retail, hospitality, restaurant work, health care, where it's all about the 'pay grade' ) but even negotiating prior to accepting an offer doesn't mean automatic parity with male counterparts... the gender wage gap exists.. it is real...

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