What kind of errands....

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What kind of errands....
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Wed, 08-31-2005 - 1:41pm

Do you run on a daily basis? Weekly basis? Monthly basis?

I've often heard people say that they need a lot of time during the week to run errands and that those errands would otherwise take up their evenings and weekends if they had to WOH ft. It made me curious because I just don't seem to have many errands to run at all. Are we just lazy :-)?

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Sat, 09-10-2005 - 8:59am
Our leagues have strict rules about the number of innings a child is allowed to pitch a week. They do what they can to avoid injuries. Of course, if the parents are hauling the kid off to pitching clinics every weekend or insisting on an hour of pitching practice a day with older kids, all the league rules in the world are not going to help.
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Sat, 09-10-2005 - 9:04am
Here's what I am noticing with my son's 7th and 8th grade friends and elite teams -- they tend to form around ages 9 here, and the kids tend to become friends and their social life is centered around the team. But come middle school and junior high, with all of them in different schools, they make friends at school, too. And they only see their team friend occasionally, and the team becomes less important to them. They start missing out on junior high social events and their commitment wanes. Except the parents have actually sunk thousands of dollars into equipment, coaching and travel by this point, and some are hoping for college scholarship offers to make it all pay off, so the kids are forced or at least strongly encouraged to keep up their skill as if it were a job, not a fun thing. Some of the elite teams around here are actually requiring cash deposits of the parents and the money is only refunded if the child doesn't miss more than some minimum number of games and practices.
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Sat, 09-10-2005 - 12:06pm
I was going to wear my mom's wedding dress.
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Sat, 09-10-2005 - 1:51pm

Have you been living in soap opera world or what?

I don't condemn PJM because she values family less or has some botched relationships with family. All I wanted to say was that if that is the way her family functions (originally, in regards to what she was willing to take off work for,) it helps explain why she can't get her mind around how other people's families function. (I've noticed over the years that sometimes PJM has a hard time understanding value structures completely different than her own and it isn't her strength to do what would need to be done in order to understand them.)

If your father doesn't even tell you that he's moved out of town, maybe you wouldn't understand why my father would offer to pay for my child's chess club (when I'm presumably perfectly able to pay for it.) Maybe you would transpose your understanding of your family dynamics onto mine and not be able to imagine a father who would be so crazy generous. (Sarcasm here as paying for chess club is really one of the littler things my dad has done for us.)

I never said I was unable to travel abroad with my parent. I don't think it makes sense to denigrate my whole relationship with him just because I don't want to travel with him long distance. I really don't think traveling together is the holy grail of healthy functional relationships. I could do it (and have done it,) but if you don't mind, I don't want to do it.

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Sat, 09-10-2005 - 3:16pm

The joy of playing is directly related to the goal of winning"

Wow, guess you've never played a sport then.

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Sat, 09-10-2005 - 10:02pm

Yes, my boys are both into baseball including playing fall ball this fall.

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Mon, 09-12-2005 - 1:03pm

You aren't seeing very clearly.

With elite teams the case where a cash deposit is held against attendance is going to be very very rare. In fact it makes so little sense that I can't imagine a situation where an actual elite team would actually impose such a sanction. Regardless of what you have heard, I doubt you've heard correctly. It just isn't necessary when having a position on a team is a priviledge. Initially the consequence is reduced game/competition involvement. Followed by loss of a spot at next tryouts, if not mid-season termination. Its not houseleague - having a spot on a team is a privilege earned by the child. Not the right of every child who wants one and who has parents willing to pay.

Children on elite teams make friends at school from day 1. They are in school before they elite teams start up. They achieve big birthday party lists though. Most of the kids, as it happens, participate in more than one sport at some level above rec. They make friends in all of their sports, at school and in their neighbhourhoods.

Parents do not keep kids in sport because of money and time previously sunk in. That generally viewed as an investment with real time roi. Keeping a child in does not generate any more roi, it just requires more i. Your platform makes no sense. By middle school age its pretty darn clear which kids have a hope in hell of acheiving an athletic scholarship worth anything. Most of them don't. The elite program is not flat, it is further tiered. The top of the top have something to consider, the rest not so much. And where a teenage is continuing thinking of scholarships, you might want to consider that not every parent is planning to hand out free ride college programs to their kids. Alot of those bright 14 year olds who continue with their sport might just be doing it with an eye towards expanding their own opportunities, don't ya think? To be brutally frank, the % kids participating in elite sports programs who are also highly achieving acadmeic students, with as much or more chance of landing an academic as an athletic scholarship, is much higher than that % in the student body at large. There is more of which to be jealous than you may realize.

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Mon, 09-12-2005 - 1:20pm
Not alot of real life people out there engage in the kind of oh woe is me time that posters do here. Those that do don't have alot of real life friends. Because they don't appear particularily real, they just appear particularily whiny. In real life, people just deal with stuff. Especially day to day stuff. They change what they can, accept what they can't and realize that a lifestyle judgement requires a look at both the deposit and withdrawls in order to understand the value of the balance. Its not whether people make mistakes or have less than 20/20 foresight that makes them real. Its how the deal with that information as they gather it day by day and how they are able to use that info to affect what sort of mistakes they will not make in the future and how much closer their foresight may get to 20/20. Most also realize that hindsight isn't actually 20/20 either, even though it ruins a wonderfully catchy phrase. The way posters present themselves as dealing with this routine life stuff here, is by no means typical of regular everyday normally functionning adults in the real world.
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Mon, 09-12-2005 - 1:24pm
I am only aware of what is happening in my town, with two nephews who have competed or are competing in elite level soccer. I've seen the contracts and talked to lots of people whose kids are playing elite level in the town, so I feel pretty sure I have a handle on what's happening here. You of course are ahead of me with your global knowledge of what seems to be happening everywhere but here.
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Mon, 09-12-2005 - 1:25pm
The great thing about at work parents is that they are just so darn reachable. As compared to the not at work parent whose whereabouts at any given time during the school day may be totally unknowable. I don't think I'd waste too much time getting worried about what the school might do if a child were left vomitting without being picked up within some particular period of time - until said school ordered all parents to carry cell phones and remain reachable at all times. If staying at work is a child neglect decision - imagine how allowing oneself to be at the zoo, knowingly unreachable would rate?

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