What kind of errands....

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Registered: 08-27-2005
What kind of errands....
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Wed, 08-31-2005 - 1:41pm

Do you run on a daily basis? Weekly basis? Monthly basis?

I've often heard people say that they need a lot of time during the week to run errands and that those errands would otherwise take up their evenings and weekends if they had to WOH ft. It made me curious because I just don't seem to have many errands to run at all. Are we just lazy :-)?

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Registered: 03-16-2005
Tue, 09-06-2005 - 9:56am
Right.
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Tue, 09-06-2005 - 9:58am
"The part you quoted perfectly illustrates that I most certainly do NOT believe Felicia is 'in the camp of people who 'really really really ' wants to do activity X." Patently untrue. If you believed she was not in this camp, then you couldn't have been referring to her when you said adults shouldn't whine about 'really really really' wanting to do something but not being able to do it because of kids. I pointed out that she DOESN'T 'really really really' want to do these things. And you agree that you knew that all along. So who is this person who is doing the whining about 'really reall.y really" wanting to do them if you agree that it isn't PNJ?
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Registered: 06-27-1998
Tue, 09-06-2005 - 10:01am

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Because after all we are in a debate and I was curious, so I asked, as I said it was outside of my experiences.

PumpkinAngel

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Registered: 12-29-2004
Tue, 09-06-2005 - 10:04am

It's not logical to say that an activity formerly done without kids always can and should be as appealing with kids as it used to be. Nor is it logical to say that if one doesn't find it as appealing as before, it isn't because of the kids. Of course it's because of the kids.

It comes down to a parent's decision about whether an activity done with kids is close enough to what it used to be to mak it worthwhile. IMO, to decide it's not always worthwhile is as valid as deciding to go for it regardless of kids. Depends on many things. IMO, PNJ has been criticized for deciding it one way rather than the other.

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Registered: 12-29-2004
Tue, 09-06-2005 - 10:22am

No, PA, I didn't post to you because I suspected you of bias. It was just because you posted to me on this a day or two ago.

Don't you think kids get exposed to sports in other ways besides their parents deliberately doing it? My kids brought home notices from preschool and school, they told me about what their friends and neighbors are up to, they see things in the media, they see sports being played on all the fields around town; I feel that with my kids my role has been much more to chauffeur them around and keep them in equipment and uniforms than to directly influence them on sports.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Tue, 09-06-2005 - 10:24am

Yup. The pattern usually goes something like this: Discussion of an activity comes up in a thread. PNJ says she used to do prior to kids or would do it if she didn't have kids, or if they weren't so little. Other posters say she still can. She says she can't and as she discusses it further, it becomes clear that "can't" actually means "yes, it is physically possible but a royal PITA and not worth it". In the interim between these two posts, she gets slagged for not doing what it takes to make it happen. When I started posting in those types of threads I'd chirpily add suggestions for how to make it possible. Now I realize that "can't" actually means "won't because it's not worth the hassle" and no longer post suggestions on how to make it happen that she doesn't want. I suspect that I'm not the only poster who knows she means that, but many keep posting ways to make it happen and get irate when she shoots down each suggestion. They know just as well as I do that she finds certain things too much of a PITA to do, rather than being literally unable to do them. But I also get the sense that the suggestions keep rolling in- along with the slagging when she won't take them-as a way to punish her for not saying "don't want to" in the first place.

I don't think PNJ is getting slagged for not being sporty. I think the true core of the slagging is because she is not particularly flexable in her personal life while many posters here are. She knows this about herself and will admit it in many threads after a particularly severe flogging, but it remains an unforgiveable personality trait and she will be jumped on every single time for whatever way it happens to manifest. Good sport that she is, she is aware that inflexability hampers things for her and she will sometimes try to flex and will succeed and then we get the "you were right and I was wrong" thread about the time she decided to be flexable about kid supervision at a gathering. Which I think is being a really good sport. She was patted on the back for this fledging step towards flexibility, but now it's back to slagging when she didn't have a personality transplant and morph entirely into a very flexable person.

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Registered: 09-04-1997
Tue, 09-06-2005 - 10:25am
If Felicia wishes to argue against the value of organized sports and other organized activities for young children, she certainly has the acumen to do so. No one is "assuming" anything about what Felicia has or has not exposed her children to in this regard. It is all based on posts she has made in the past.
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Registered: 12-29-2004
Tue, 09-06-2005 - 10:25am
That's when I say, "Go play, I'm busy!"
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Registered: 09-04-1997
Tue, 09-06-2005 - 10:31am
It's pretty disingenous to pretend that Felicia, has not, over the years, spent a great many threads telling us how awful it is to have your life limited by young children and how much she misses the person she used to be and the activities she used to be involved in before children. The difference between deciding an activity is no longer worth it to you because of the cost and hassle involved and claiming that you cannot engage in such activity even if you want to is what we're arguing about here. Most people do the former, Felicia does the latter.
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Tue, 09-06-2005 - 10:33am
I wish everybody would only use them on trails. I have seen them many times on city streets and it gives me the heebie jeebies of an accident waiting to happen. I never see them on busy streets, only residential ones with light thru traffic. But light traffic is still traffic and it's much harder (maybe even impossible) to swerve out of the way of a car when there's a kid on/behind the bike. Drivers should be aware of bikers, but newbie teen drivers often aren't and it just scares me to see Highschool Hotrod come careening around the corner of an otherwise quiet street and almost sidsweep some parent/kid bike combo.

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