What kind of errands....

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Registered: 08-27-2005
What kind of errands....
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Wed, 08-31-2005 - 1:41pm

Do you run on a daily basis? Weekly basis? Monthly basis?

I've often heard people say that they need a lot of time during the week to run errands and that those errands would otherwise take up their evenings and weekends if they had to WOH ft. It made me curious because I just don't seem to have many errands to run at all. Are we just lazy :-)?

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Registered: 03-28-2003
Wed, 09-07-2005 - 11:40pm

I wanted to respond with something glib about what a shame it is that you don't get to experience the wonderful feeling of interdependence amongst your extended family/family of origin. But I do think it sucks that you don't have those relationships that make that possible so I won't.

I really have to remind myself that people come from such different backgrounds and different family values that it can renders debates on this board almost meaningless from time to time. I remember being chastised for being open to accepting money from my father for chess club for one of my children (by either you or QM--I can't remember) and I couldn't understand what the big hairy deal was. A few years ago, my dh took TEN days off his (commission-based) work to take my dad to Asia to help him fulfill a fifty year old wish of his. We paid for the entire trip so my dad wouldn't have to worry about any of the details. I didn't think anything of it until I see posts like this where people just don't get what it is like to be part of an interconnected, interdependent family--the kind in which people don't begrudge supporting one another in whatever way they can.

As far as what my dh does at work? Who knows. He probably spends most of his day on some message board arguing about how lame the Chicago Bears' defense is this year.

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Registered: 03-16-2005
Thu, 09-08-2005 - 12:18am

"If they wish and need to drive a car, yes actually there is, there are laws that govern what type of car children can ride in." Well no kidding there are laws about children being restrained in cars. But that's not relevant. I said there are no laws governing what cars parents may own, requiring parents to own any cars at all, or requiring parents to sell cars. Which is the only relevant issue, because ownership of particular kinds of cars is a decision which has been held up as an example of something which is impossible for certain people solely based on their status as parents.

"But my car choice is based on the laws of my state that govern how children are allowed to ride in a car and my children in general." Well good. You are making the car choice. That's all I wanted to know.

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Registered: 12-29-2004
Thu, 09-08-2005 - 6:31am
"Must" is just as absolute as "never"; that's why I resist your claim that no child has ever mandated that parents do anything. Outside the realm of hard science, I prefer terms like "usually", "frequently", "often", or "seldom". The idea that my kids have "never" mandated anything doesn't ring true with me, but I'm open to "at times".
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Registered: 07-16-2005
Thu, 09-08-2005 - 7:14am

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I don't think those are fair statements to make about PNJ or anybody else who is estranged from family. Lots of people value family very much, but circumstances and personalities don't always oblige, ya know. I too am fortunate enough to have a loving family and the means to take a parent with us on vacations abroad. And to have a most accomodating husband too because not all men are willing to spend their vacation with their MILs. It doesn't make me more of a family person than anybody else, just someone fortunate enough to have had all of the stars line up in the proper order.

The wheel of fortune just dealt you a more favorable hand than PNJ. She seems to value family very much.

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Registered: 07-16-2005
Thu, 09-08-2005 - 7:39am
I'll try. Are you willing to say it's "problematic" for your DH to be unable to leave the operating table when your son has an emergency? I would imagine if it's not a full-blown "problem" because you see very little as being a real problem, then it is at least problematic for a man who feels so strongly that <>
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 09-08-2005 - 7:44am
Also being in organized sports does not always mean being active. If a child puts minimum effort into it and gets no activity outside of the organized sport then they would be less active than many who are not in organized sports. Just because a parent pays the money it does not mean that the child will get anything out of it.
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Registered: 03-16-2005
Thu, 09-08-2005 - 7:58am
"The wheel of fortune just dealt you a more favorable hand than PNJ." Huge assumption.
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Registered: 03-16-2005
Thu, 09-08-2005 - 8:13am
"Not the same with kids. Not impossible, but less enjoyable depending on the ages of the kids, most certainly." How depressing. And not universal.
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Registered: 07-16-2005
Thu, 09-08-2005 - 8:20am
Her mother dying too young and her father marrying a woman who has - for whatever reasons - removed him from PNJ's life and her brother's life and the lives of his biological grandchildren is a pretty clear cut case of being dealt a bad hand. The parental bond is the strongest bond many of us will ever have...and may be longer than any other relationship we will ever have. Everything seemed to be going fairly by the book until PNJ's mom died prematurely.
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Registered: 03-16-2005
Thu, 09-08-2005 - 8:43am
Like I said.

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