Who has influenced your sah/woh

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Who has influenced your sah/woh
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Thu, 02-09-2006 - 2:39pm

opinion to DIFFER. What I mean is--is there anyone on this board or in real life whose opinion/reasoning/debating/facts started to make your thinking more to the middle? As in if you thought sah or woh was best & then after some discussion/thought, you began to think that whatever is best for each family--really there is no one best way, etc.

We just really needed a new thread here!!!!!!!!

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Thu, 02-23-2006 - 11:28pm

Julia you are so right. Seeing the effects of Aids up close changes ones perspective forever. I mean, we are talking about their LIVES here. Its not just about being worried we might be *condoning* things by discussing protection-its about trying to make sure they really understand the possible ramifications.

I would never just offer up condoms to my dd either, but like you, if she comes to me and wants to talk about protection, I will discuss what is available, etc. I certainly would do my best to talk her out of it-but in the end, we just cant make that decision for them.

I know my dd has always had lots of questions about the body, sex, etc. I've guided her with information, moral viewpoints, honesty, and even books (American Girls the Care and Keeping of You is a great one for younger girls). All of which have (so far) left me with a teenager who still waits up for me on a Saturday night to talk to me about her new bf, who still confides in me, who says she always feels better after we talk. So something must be going right here, lol! Who knows, in another year she might tell me to get lost! But for right now, we seem to be doing okay.

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Thu, 02-23-2006 - 11:41pm

I understand why you feel the way you do, but I think helping get her birth control is pretty much giving permission.

I just did a google search, and in my state (and at least 20 other states), minors apparently don't need a parent's permission to get contraception: http://www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/spibs/spib_MACS.pdf

So I guess I'm going back to thinking that if my dd tells me she's planning to have sex, I'll talk to her again about reasons to wait *and* about birth control and protection again stds. I'll probably even ask her to talk to somebody else about it. But I don't think I'm going to help facilitate something I don't believe in. She can call to make the appointment, figure out how to get there, and pay for it herself. I don't see myself buying condoms for her or reminding her to take her pill. Maybe I'll feel differently when she's 16, but right now, I just can't see myself doing that.

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Thu, 02-23-2006 - 11:43pm
Except in the majority of States in the union, where a parent may legally serve alcohol to their minor children.

Karen


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Thu, 02-23-2006 - 11:52pm

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I really hope I have formed with my DD the same open line of communication that you have with your beautiful DD. I think it is so awesome that she confides in you, and she gets pleasure from your talks. To me, this is such unchartered territory. I was raised basically by my parents rule, that if they don't discuss it, you don't bring it up. I know they always had the best of intentions, but as the child, it was a very distant relationship that I had with them. I want so much more of a relationship than that with my children. Anyway, thanks for the kind words.

Julia

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Thu, 02-23-2006 - 11:57pm
That's an exception, and I believe it requires the parent to serve the alcohol at home. That's a pretty big restriction on the right to drink that adults enjoy.
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Fri, 02-24-2006 - 12:15am

First of all, it really does help matters for you to misrepresent what I said. I did not call you stupid. I called your *post* stupid. I was quite careful to direct my comments to what you were saying and not direct them at you specifically. I deeply resent you suggesting otherwise.

Secondly, you can't really make a blanket statement about all wheat bread slices everywhere, so your highly questionable glycemic index doesn't really have much value in this discussion. Read the label of the bread you serve (or better yet, before you buy it). I don't buy bread with a carb value over 20 for a slice, nor with less than 3 grams of fiber per serving. Then again, I can't control what kind of crap you purchase in your home, so maybe you *do* happen to buy higher ranked breads.

On the other hand, according to the Canadian Diabetes Association webpage, any food with a rating of 55 or less is considered a low GI, which puts even your reading for bread in the low range. (http://www.diabetes.ca/Section_About/glycemic.asp).

Considering the fact that by your own description of your daughter, you plan is failing (she still has a weight problem, she is still, apparently, at risk for diabetes), and considering my own diabetes has been under control for over a year without meds, which of the two of us has the better handle on an appropriate diet?

Furthermore, I've never said an apple is a bad choice of a snack. I question and still do, given your fuzzy math and science, your assertion that the apple is a better choice than bread. I don't happen to think EITHER choice is bad. That's the difference. You think bread is bad, even tho your own choice lands solidly into a low GI range and is by every expert out there, a good choice for a carb. If you're only going to give 1/2 an apple, you have to consider 1/2 slice of bread too, or you're not making an appropriate comparison, since I've been comparing a whole apple to a whole slice of bread. You don't appear to give much priority to credibility in your posts. You've misrepresented my own posts several times.

Your posts lack credibility and your knowledge appears to be noting more than a talent for cutting and pasting bits and pieces from the ADA out of context and without a full disclosure of what they are actually saying.

If you want to talk about prevention, maybe you'd do well to get a better handle on your daughter, whom you've not yet even stated if she truly has a legitimate problem.

And quite honesly, I would worry less about her diet and do more to keep her active. In my own experience, by simply increasing my cardio output to 20 minutes additional daily, I dropped my morning glucose readings by more than 15 points. Diet is only part of the plan and simply because your daughter is as active as her thinner siblings doesn't mean she's getting enough exercise.

Let's talk some more when you can quote me with accuracy instead of simply making things up and pretending I said them.

Karen


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Karen

"Veronica: "I hate fake deer too. Every time I see their stupid fake-deer faces I want to grab a shotgun and go all Cheney on 'em." Sure, but since fake deer don't talk, they won't

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Fri, 02-24-2006 - 12:54am

Okay, let's start small.

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Fri, 02-24-2006 - 2:23am
I don't believe I ever said that minors have unrestricted access to alcohol. I said that in the majority of states in the union parents can legally serve minors alcohol, which very decisively refutes your statement that it's illegal for minors to drink it.

Karen


"Terry manages to hand the bag off to Ruth Marie, who takes off in the most mincing sprint you have ever seen in your life. She does her best, but she runs like she's got a pink parasol in one hand and an inhaler in the other."


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Karen

"Veronica: "I hate fake deer too. Every time I see their stupid fake-deer faces I want to grab a shotgun and go all Cheney on 'em." Sure, but since fake deer don't talk, they won't

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Fri, 02-24-2006 - 7:54am
This one's important to me.
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Fri, 02-24-2006 - 7:55am
When they decide to join the KKK, I'll be ready lol.

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