Why should I support someone else?

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Registered: 12-27-2006
Why should I support someone else?
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Sat, 12-30-2006 - 1:24pm

Let me start by saying that I"m new here so this may have already been discussed, but this has come up in my office several times and I wanted to get some other views of this.

I do payroll for a rather small company so I know most of the workers and their wives (most of the workers are men due to the nature of our business). There are two in particular who's wives SAH. These two are up to their eyeballs in debt. I have bill collectors constantly calling for them. That part is really their business, it is annoying but I enjoy being rude back to the bill collectors, lol.

The part that bothers me is that both wives have been in the office wanting copies of X amount of check stubs so that they can go and get public assistance (I know because they told me that is what it is for)! Why should my tax money go so that these women can SAH? I know that not all families that one parent stays at home are like this, but I know lots that are. Heck, growing up we were always broke because my mother refused to work, but we weren't on any public assistance.

So, why should I pay for a woman to SAH? Why can't she go and get a job to support her family just like anyone else?

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Registered: 11-15-2006
Tue, 02-20-2007 - 6:46pm

nope,

You do not need psychiatric's to get psychiatric drug's, or a doctor to get drug's in general.

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Registered: 11-20-2006
Tue, 02-20-2007 - 7:27pm
That's a ludicrous thing! LOL. Most, if not all, drugs used to treat mental illnesses are not "desirable" in the sense of recreational type use. If that were true, then it wouldn't be so hard to keep people who need to be on them, on them.
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Registered: 06-30-2006
Tue, 02-20-2007 - 7:43pm
If you're getting drugs illegally, why bother to fake mental illness?

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Registered: 06-30-2006
Tue, 02-20-2007 - 7:44pm
Just one of the many flagrant fallacies inherent in this line of thinking.

Sabina


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Registered: 11-15-2006
Tue, 02-20-2007 - 9:27pm

sorry bout the misunderstanding, i was not directing getting drug's ilegally.

You can go to a gyn and get drug's for mental illness.




Edited 2/20/2007 9:29 pm ET by xenozany
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Registered: 11-15-2006
Tue, 02-20-2007 - 9:37pm
I so disagree. Recreational use? That was not my point at all.
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Registered: 11-15-2006
Tue, 02-20-2007 - 9:45pm

"flagrant fallacies" your opinion, i know too many ppl who take the drugs and really do not need to. I also know to many who refuse to seek help b/c they think they are not mentally ill.

It shames the reality of mental illness, imo.

Different experience i guess, but that in no way implies "flagrant fallacies"

I made a living dealing with real ppl dealing with REAL mental illness.

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Registered: 05-09-2006
Wed, 02-21-2007 - 2:12am

There is also visual proof of mental illness.

While doctors may only be at the beginnings of understanding mental illness that hardly means that there is no hard, physical proof of it. Perhaps before you go too much further along in your claims, you should declare your educational background in the subject matter.

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Registered: 05-09-2006
Wed, 02-21-2007 - 2:17am

While I don't necessarily agree with the problems with the iPod and cell phones, your argument does tend to have a credibility not shared by the cl's; you disapprove AND your children don't have these items.

The CL has waxed long and detailed about how she doesn't like them and all the alleged inherent evils, BUT, she still lets her kids have them. IMO, there's not much credibility in the argument posed by a parent that argues against all this stuff but only takes it as far as not purchasing it herself--it's okay if others circumvent her parenting??

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Registered: 05-09-2006
Wed, 02-21-2007 - 2:20am
How does your son get unapproved music onto an iPod if he doesn't have internet access at home, nor any means to pay for downloads from other computing sources?

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