Why should I support someone else?

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Registered: 12-27-2006
Why should I support someone else?
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Sat, 12-30-2006 - 1:24pm

Let me start by saying that I"m new here so this may have already been discussed, but this has come up in my office several times and I wanted to get some other views of this.

I do payroll for a rather small company so I know most of the workers and their wives (most of the workers are men due to the nature of our business). There are two in particular who's wives SAH. These two are up to their eyeballs in debt. I have bill collectors constantly calling for them. That part is really their business, it is annoying but I enjoy being rude back to the bill collectors, lol.

The part that bothers me is that both wives have been in the office wanting copies of X amount of check stubs so that they can go and get public assistance (I know because they told me that is what it is for)! Why should my tax money go so that these women can SAH? I know that not all families that one parent stays at home are like this, but I know lots that are. Heck, growing up we were always broke because my mother refused to work, but we weren't on any public assistance.

So, why should I pay for a woman to SAH? Why can't she go and get a job to support her family just like anyone else?

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Thu, 02-22-2007 - 12:19pm

I don't have any statistics on this, but I suspect that very few illegal operations can be run by just one person. With the exception of shoplifting and the taking (rather than selling) of drugs, they all tend to be hot businesses. Not for nothing is the black market called a "market". But you seem to have the odd opinion that high customer demand is a form of legitimacy. It gives no legitimacy at all. It just makes law enforcement a Sysiphean task.

OT (well actually not), dh and I just rented "The Departed". As Bostonians and Scorsese fans, it was 2 thumbs up for us. An excellent and highly recommended movie. And a nice little reminder of how ugly organized crime truly is, even if the end product seems harmless. I know, I know. You don't want to believe that organized crime has anything to do with the manufacture of counterfeit handbags. But ask yourself, who is making these bags and how do they get from the manufacturer to to the parties you attend? Since they are illegal, they must move tyhrough illegal channels to get to those parties. Unless the lady you know (and her 6 employees) go to the sweatshops in China themselves, distribution once the bags hit the US must be handled by organized crime.

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Thu, 02-22-2007 - 12:20pm

Because of course the prostitute

PumpkinAngel

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Thu, 02-22-2007 - 12:23pm
They are both in the large category of illegal things that have a high customer demand. Since you keep bringing up a high customer demand as a defense of the business, it's only logical to point out that prostitution is even MORE in demand, yet it remains illegal.
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Thu, 02-22-2007 - 12:24pm

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So you keep saying.

PumpkinAngel

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Thu, 02-22-2007 - 12:28pm
The prostitute won't do time either. Well, a day or two until her pimp bails her out.
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Thu, 02-22-2007 - 12:33pm

The link proves and support what iam saying.......................................




Edited 2/22/2007 12:48 pm ET by xenozany
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Thu, 02-22-2007 - 12:40pm
True, but pimping is bad. Really bad and I would say on a par with distributing counterfeit handbags for the mafia.
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Thu, 02-22-2007 - 12:41pm
Depression in connection with childbearing is not just any mental illness, and it would be perfectly reasonable for a gyn to treat it.
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Thu, 02-22-2007 - 12:44pm
It doesn't. The link is all about hoping that at some point in the future, OB/GYNS will start to diagnose and treat depression. The whole point of that lengthy interview is to bemoan that it ISN'T happening already, given that women tend to see their OB/GYNs more than any other doctor. The link actually undermines what you are saying since it is written entirely from the assumption that OB/GYNs currently neither diagnose nor treat depression and wouldn't it be better if they did.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 02-22-2007 - 12:44pm
Many of the bags are produced not in China, but in sweatshops around Naples run directly by the mafia.

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