Why should I support someone else?

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Registered: 12-27-2006
Why should I support someone else?
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Sat, 12-30-2006 - 1:24pm

Let me start by saying that I"m new here so this may have already been discussed, but this has come up in my office several times and I wanted to get some other views of this.

I do payroll for a rather small company so I know most of the workers and their wives (most of the workers are men due to the nature of our business). There are two in particular who's wives SAH. These two are up to their eyeballs in debt. I have bill collectors constantly calling for them. That part is really their business, it is annoying but I enjoy being rude back to the bill collectors, lol.

The part that bothers me is that both wives have been in the office wanting copies of X amount of check stubs so that they can go and get public assistance (I know because they told me that is what it is for)! Why should my tax money go so that these women can SAH? I know that not all families that one parent stays at home are like this, but I know lots that are. Heck, growing up we were always broke because my mother refused to work, but we weren't on any public assistance.

So, why should I pay for a woman to SAH? Why can't she go and get a job to support her family just like anyone else?

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 02-23-2007 - 4:19am
That is the problem with eliminating outdoor recess and recess generally in schools, all these people grow up without a clue about basic morality. I am only half kidding, btw.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 02-23-2007 - 4:24am
Well, then we agree. One can respect a prostitute, but a purse party bimbo is a bit more tricky. I mentioned pimping because that was the beauty of the original analogy, Lindamomtokidlets thought her dh's prostitute visits were OK because the pimp who facilitated the visits was really busy.
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 02-23-2007 - 4:42am
LOL, now an MA is proof of being "smart." Stupid is as stupid does, with or without an MA.
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Registered: 04-27-2005
Fri, 02-23-2007 - 7:53am
My point is that you are not dealing with a bunch of 18 year olds with no education. The woman who runs the parties doesn't even have to work. She stays home with her kids all day and does this at night after her dh comes home. Not a bad deal to make tons of money for a few hours of work.
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-27-2005
Fri, 02-23-2007 - 7:56am
I guess you just never came across these kinds of parties or people who sell bootleg movies, etc. You will be surprised who buys these things.
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-27-2005
Fri, 02-23-2007 - 8:00am
I really think this is being blown out of proportion. Have you ever been to NYC? Have you ever walked down the streets and seen all the fake things being sold? This is not an uncommon thing around the world. Alot of people do not understand this as they have never been out of their own town to see the world (not saying you are one of them).
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 02-23-2007 - 8:35am
You keep bringing up things that are utterly irrelevant to the issue at hand. What these women are doing is illegal. Most of us consider it stupid to engage in criminal behavior. If they were 16, inexperienced and did some dumb thing on a lark, I would be far more understanding actually.
iVillage Member
Registered: 06-17-2003
Fri, 02-23-2007 - 8:43am
Why does it matter what kinds of people shop at thrift stores and what kind of people go to handbag parties? The point that everyone is trying to make, which seems to go right over your head, is that there is nothing illegal about shopping at a thrift store whether you're a cigarette smoking, bingo playing, neglectful mother or whether you're Bill Gates, however, buying fake handbags is illegal whether or not you can afford the real thing.
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 02-23-2007 - 9:23am

Just because something is not uncommon doesn't mean it is right and legal. People sped all the time. People cheat on their taxes all the time. Just because someone else do it, doesn't mean I am going to do it and doesn't make it right.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Fri, 02-23-2007 - 9:24am
Middle and upper class people break the law all the time. I doubt the illegal drug trade would thrive at its current level if it had to subsist only on poor people. You keep thinking it is some sort of big revelation that middle and upper class people are at these parties. It isn't a revelation at all. Nobody is acting surprised when you continuoulsy post about the "kind of people who attend these parties". There is no surprise at all. But there is a lot of disgust for anybody who would do it even AFTER knowing how the bags got to the party in the first place. Organized crime desperately needs a middle and upper class customer base to survive because the thing about poor people is...they don't have a lot of spending money. So you can stop waving the class flag as though it were some sort of eye-opener. It isn't. But it is an eye-opener that somebody would continue to be supportive of these parties despite KNOWING where the bags come from. Some of these women can plead ignorance. You can't.

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