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| Mon, 11-20-2006 - 11:13am |
Hi Ladies :)
This is my first time on this debate board and I have been dying to jump into some of the topics, but I feel as though they are sooooo long (one in particular is over 1000 replies, yikes!) that starting my own specific one might work out better.
Anyhow, a recurring theme here seems to be what Moms should and shouldn't be going to work for. It seems some are of the opinion that is OK for Mom to work if she must to pay her bills but NOT if its to afford a nice car, house, good neighborhood. This is considered keeping up with the Johnses (who are they???) and thats bad.
Well, I want to know what in the heck is wrong with a women working to have nice things? I don't mean working and leaving baby in child care 16 hours a day, everyday...thats pretty extreme.
I enjoyed a certain lifestyle before having a child, should I have downsized that lifestyle once baby came so I didn't have to work? What about me *wanting* to maintain a certain lifestyle for myself, my husband, and my child makes me a (a) workaholic or (b) striving to keep up with the Joneses?
Don't some people (like myself) simply enjoy living in a nice place with nice things and want their children to have the same experience?
So please, anyone who thinks a women is wrong for WOH if she is not doing so to financially survive but does it to maintain a certain lifestyle...whats wrong with this?
Thanks all :)

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but that IS EXACTLY what she has said. She has purported sah as THE ONLY WAY OF RAISING KIDS.
Carole
did you miss the part where she went on to say that...
wohms are abdicating their parental responsibility...
and that
dcps are raising the children in their care (as are school teachers)....
and that
children of wohms are "suffering needlessly".....
yeah, okay, she said "nothing" direct about wohms....
Nothing to flip here -- those are the things that she has said.
Carole
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Well I don't think worrying about an adult woman having a child out of wedlock is a real issue. Not a lot anyone can do about what adults do.
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I am not sure what this has to do with anything. In the 50's the teen pregnancy rate was higher than it is today. That is true. However according to this site you posted more of those teens were married when they had these children. Today we have fewer teens pregnant but the vast majority of them aren't married. In the 50's you had about 81 teens pregnant and only 12% of them unmarried. In 2000 you have 50 pregnant and 80% of them unmarried. So if you do the math that is about about 8 unmarried teens pregnant in the 50's and in 2000 you have 40 unmarried teens pregnant. That is NOT an improvement.
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wohms are abdicating their parental responsibility...
and that
dcps are raising the children in their care (as are school teachers)....
and that
children of wohms are "suffering needlessly".....
yeah, okay, she said "nothing" direct about wohms....
Nothing to flip here -- those are the things that she has said.>>
Was this after the post that I am referring to? If it was I have no way of knowing what she said AFTER I commented on how someone turned her words around. I am not psychic. I do believe PNJ also stated that SAHM abdicate their responsibilities by SAH. Did you miss that?
She has said in other posts that she thinks that kids of WOHMs suffer.
Apart from that, as has been explained a few times now, if you say that SAH is best, it has to be better than something, right? In this case, the only "something" is WOH. I am not sure why you fail to understand that.
>>I can only do so much laundry, do so much cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping, and singing of "Itsy bitsy spider" before I want to pull my hair out. For m <<
wow. i'm sorry you feel this is all sah is.
and while woh is important to you,it sounds like a lifestyle may very well be part of it. isn't your part of california a very high col area? unless engineering there is something exclusive to that part of the country like oil is to houston,my priorities would not be tied up in an area i couldn't afford and only htwoh for. that's just me,though.
finally,statistics don't mean a thing to the priceless value some sahms sah for...many sahms mark great impressions because of philanthropy and other outstanding causes that don't require one dime to impress.
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