About parenting, education, violence, etc

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About parenting, education, violence, etc
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Thu, 03-27-2014 - 10:39am

My daughter and her class were asked to find a number of arguments here, The transcript is longer than this 3 minute video and it touches on a few issues we have tossed around here.  It's pretty cool to me that a teacher is wanting students perspective about this and as I await her return from school to tell me how it went today I wanted to take this to the board, How real is this IYO/E?  Are parents in or out of the loop about their childrens lives?  How do children get a proper education when their lives away from school contradict that?  Thoughts?  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gh3_e3mDQ8

Dislaimer, Cosby is known for stirring the pot when he speaks but this is not a minority issue.  Kids are thinkers and I commend her teacher for asking them to think outside the box here.  

 

 

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Fri, 03-28-2014 - 9:48pm

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<p>Oh boy what a laugh I just got.</p><p>Remember who tried multiple times to get a man to marry you to no avail and then marries the next chick that comes along and stays married for many, many, years. Lololol. Tells ya something. Hmmmm....chew on that one :)</p>

so the best shot you have is ancient history AND yet one more replay about how a woman isn't really worth anything if she can't find a man?  Well, I'd rather be alone than married to a felon.  :::snicker:::

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Fri, 03-28-2014 - 9:50pm

bordwithyou wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">blackandwhitemolly</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;Oh boy what a laugh I just got.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Remember who tried multiple times to get a man to marry you to no avail and then marries the next chick that comes along and stays married for many, many, years. Lololol. Tells ya something. Hmmmm....chew on that one :)&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote> Oh come on!  That's the best you've got?  Insinuations about a relationship gone wrong some thirty years ago?  I think that been swallowed, digested, and eliminated a quarter of a century ago.  Don't look now, but your desperation is showing.</p>

Is it desperation or just an example of her pathetic self loathing?

My vote is both.

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Registered: 12-22-2013

I would rather be alone than married to a felon too. I wouldn't know because I am not. Shrug.

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Sat, 03-29-2014 - 8:22am
The kids were asked to pick apart the speech not decide if Cosby is just some rich black guy with something to say. Unlike you, kids are likely to be less bias and the teacher wanted perspectives about culture from her class which I found intersting. That's too bad you're so closed minded.

 

 

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Registered: 12-22-2013

Desperation about.....what? lololol.

Paolo? lololol

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Registered: 12-22-2013

Desperation about.....what? lololol.

Paolo? lololol

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Registered: 12-22-2013

You can put up that the world is round and they would still try and debate you on that. lololol. 

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You can put up that the world is round and they would still try and debate you on that. lololol. 

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Sat, 03-29-2014 - 8:34am

Picking apart the speech legitimately involves identifying the social location and authority of the speaker.  I like Cosby.  He spent the first half to two thirds of his career basically ignoring race, this gaining some cachet amkng whites.  If you look closely at  his show, though, he did gradually sneak in some lessons about black history, black culture, and political issues of interest to the black community.  He did a lot to identify and define the black middle class/professional class.  He's given millions to historically black colleges and this speech was as an elder in the black community to a mostly black audience.  I do think there is an element of blaming poor people for being poor here, but overall I think it's a good piece to think with.  We t in the midst of a Great Forgetting, not only among blacks who do not always honor the struggles of their grandparents and great grandparents, but aming women who reap the benefits of the feminist movement while eschewing the feminist label.

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Sat, 03-29-2014 - 8:36am

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<p>I would rather be alone than married to a felon too. I wouldn't know because I am not. Shrug.</p>
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