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Is this an age related thing?
| Thu, 04-12-2007 - 9:45am |
(Totally OT, not SAH/WOH related, so feel free to not respond)
I went out with 5 other women to dinner last night.

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>>I see what you mean about a party sitting at one table. I do not see how that automatically means there will be one tab for everyone.<<
one table, one tab. thats a fairly standard practice that has been in use since i can't even remember how long. definelty since before i was born LOL.
>>Obviously I have been ABLE to. Like I said, the waitress says "how many bills?" It's possible to say "one please." They don't *assume* it will be just one bill. That's different than not being able to get one bill.<<
i misunderstood what you were saying then, WRT comments you responded that you "know of no other way to pay a bill" other than to split it. so thats how i interpreted it LOL.
>>I'll just take both bills and pay the combined amount.<<
so you'll have the resteraunt charge your credit card twice (or more) for one dinner? thats absurd to me. thats why we don't split automatically here.
>>How is that mortifying? It's still a surprise to those with you, as they didn't know until you said that that it was your treat.<<
becasue thats not how its done here. you shouldn't have to say that.
>>Not that I've ever noticed, but sometimes if they're unsure they'll ask how many bills. How is it *embarassing* though? The person paying simply hands both bills and money to cover both to the waiter? And what's wrong with a dating couple each paying for their own meal?<<
my DH and i are not going to buy meals speratly - and personally speaking i don't want the waitress playing guessing games about whether or not i'm married to my DH, or if i'm out with my friend and they assume i'm married to a woman etc. its none of their business. and its poor manners. if we ASK for seperate checks, thats OK. if a dating couple decide they want to go dutch, thats OK too. but i sure as heck don't want the wiatsaff making that decision for me. and i also don't want to have to ask the server to go back and combine thebills so i don't have to pay twice - thats ridiculous. and seeing a couple togather and assuming that they will pay seperatly is embarrising to me. particualrly if its me and my DH.
and as a waitress, i will not play guessing games either. its not my job. i won't just split a bill (unsolicited) becasue i don't know who wants to pay for what. i don't know if guest so and so ordered an app to be shared, but wishes to pay for it himself. or if so and so orderd the app, but it was really for his date - and wants her to pay for it. and what about folks who split an entree, dessert, app or bottle of wine? how do you split that up? if the party says "i'll pay for drinks, and he'll pay for apps, and whatever" OK, but i'm sure as heck not going to guess about it LOL.
>>I, personally, think it's more considerate for the waitress to say "how many bills?" than to just assume it's one.<<
this is probably regional, but its incredibly rude here to assume that a party will want to split a bill. it tells the customers taht they are either not wealthy enough to afford to pay one tab, too cheap to chip in equally or refusing to pay for anything but what they specifically ordered, assumes that a couple is not together (or conversly, can make it seem like a couple is together when they are not) etc...
even though the places that i worked allowed split bills for small parties - it was not the norm. the clientel we had often invited folks out to dinner, and it is proper etiquette to pay for your guests - according to them. to assume otherwise is an insult to them, and is embarrising to the guests.
basically, what i'm saying is that it is standard practice to understand that a bill will be on one tab unless otherwise instructed. its perfectly OK for a customer to ask for a sperate check - their wishes will be accepted as long as its within the resetraunts ability to do so (or withi policy). but splitting checks automatically is not a good thing to do.
>>I never denied that. I agreed, all along, that it did require more work. However, I've consistently stated that I believe the "more work" created isn't undue or unreasonable; that the extra work created is something that, in most cases, is worth the effort and can be done cheerfully, with out causeing harried and stressed out wait staff.<<
FWIW i never said it made servers harried or stressed. only that it causes problems, and was unreasonable. it simply takes up too much time (thus creating problems for other waitsatff and other customers) when one bill would suffice.
How do you know the software I am talking about is outdated???? I didn't know you were in the pub with me. You do understand there are probably hundreds of pos software packages out there? YOu are thinking about your own little part of the world... about the software you've seen. There is more out there.
"If what you say is true how is that not more time consuming then hit in one table number then the order than having to hit a seat number every time you put in a order for one table."
Again you question me.... tell me how telling me what I say is not true is not the same as calling me a liar?
If you are going to micromanage down to the half second click, then you're just going to stress yourself and your staff out. If punching in a single digit after or right before punching in the actual food a client ordered is too much work for you, then I do not know what else to say. I didn't think it was that complicated. Apparently for some it is.
Actually she never said only and i was being quite clear from the very beginning that iam addressing the entire transaction of wasting time and money on seperate checks, perhaps you should go back to the beginning. she clarifyed that splitting checks is as easy as one click, after i ? her about the fact you can not hit the split check button and split any check, you have to tell the computer what you are splitting, combining, opening, voiding, closing, cashing out ect.
i was commenting on the notion that one table = one check was out of the norm.
requesting split checks, or having a resteraunt offer it is another thing entirely than stating it isn't normal for a resteraunt to put everything on one tab when the server has not been told otherwise. basically, its far more normal for a server to put everything on one tab for one table than it is for a server to split a check without being asked or told to do so.
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