Black Friday

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Black Friday
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Fri, 11-29-2013 - 12:24pm

1. Did you do any shopping yesterday or today?

2. Do you have any leftovers? What is your favorite?

3. Do you have a budget for holiday gifts?

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Registered: 11-26-2013
Wed, 12-04-2013 - 10:23am

I hardly think that 7500+ employees for the employer and 550+ in my divions qualify as a small company.

Not sure where I ever said that an employer with 7500 + employees is a small company. I HAVE worked at other companies and DO know OTHER people who have worked at and do work at smaller companies. It's that life experience that I have ;)

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Wed, 12-04-2013 - 10:22am

I gave the conractor a down payment before he began work. I gave him a second installment after he'd completed the first phase of the project.   I never gave him the third installment because he didn't finish the work. 

Again, I'm not going to give you specific dollar amounts.  

Oh, I figured you wouldn't but I do know how much you said you lost and it was a lot for the job you said they were going to do. 


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Wed, 12-04-2013 - 10:16am

turkeyday wrote:
<p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">One - because it is common practice to give a down payment for work to be done.  That's good business on the part of the contractor so that he can guarantee that the customer won't end up with something for nothing.</p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><strong>Yep, I am well aware of that. I have had a lot of work done in my home. The only way it would be THOUSANDS of dollars if the work was in the 10's or 100's of thousands of dollars. IME you pay 3 "payments". </strong></p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">Two - small contractors need the funds to buy the supplies to do the work.</p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><strong>Yes, and?</strong></p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">If the contractor had been scrupulous, it woudln't have been a problem.  See, it wasn't that *I* did something wrong - it was that he did.  </p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><strong>That is why recommendations are highly recommended before getting someone to work on your home.</strong></p>

As I've said repeatedly in the 3452 other times you've badgered me about this, I had references. Notice the "s" on the end of that word, making it plural.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Wed, 12-04-2013 - 10:15am

turkeyday wrote:
<p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">If the money isn't comin gfrom company coffers, then it isn't the company giving the bonus. It is a person/people giving a gift.</p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">We do that here. Our middle and upper administration (including me) contribute from our own pockets to provide gift cards to our staff and student workers.  While some may casually call it a bonus, it isn't a bonus - it's a holiday gift in appreciation for their hard work.</p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><strong>It all depends on how large the company is. IME it would be a small company doing something like that. It seems it is done by you on the same smaller scale.</strong></p>

I hardly think that 7500+ employees for the employer and 550+ in my divions qualify as a small company.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Wed, 12-04-2013 - 10:14am

turkeyday wrote:
<p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">I didn't do anything wrong.  My only mistake was in not pursuing a small claims case sooner.</p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><strong>Didn't you give this contractor THOUSANDS of dollars before the project was completed? How much was the total project that you gave them so much as an installation? If it was so important to you, why wouldn't that have been a priority in your life to get the money back?</strong></p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">You know what? I beat myself up over the situation for a long time ... and I moved on and made peace with the situation.  I don't know why you and jams can't do the same.</p><p style="font-size:13px; text-align:left"><strong>Maybe because all of the sling throwing of things we have done wrong in the past.</strong></p>

I gave the conractor a down payment before he began work. I gave him a second installment after he'd completed the first phase of the project.   I never gave him the third installment because he didn't finish the work.

Again, I'm not going to give you specific dollar amounts. 

I didn't open the door to any of your past mistakes - in fact the LOC is the only one I"ve mentioned here, and I didn't even bring that up.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Wed, 12-04-2013 - 10:14am

So no answer as to why you fell you have to lie in these debates?   It is standard practice to pay contractors in pieces over the course of a project, anyone who has ever had work done on their home or wherever would know that you pay so much at different times during the course of the work.  Really, there is no need to continue to lie about this subject.

and again, I am WELL aware of that as I have had a lot of work done on my home.

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Wed, 12-04-2013 - 10:12am

Technically? No. Money given from the company/employer is either a bonus or wages.  Money given from people is gifts.  (in the context of this discussion)

Ok, so what do you call money given that is given at another time of  the year and is NOT technically a bonus? Is it not a gift because it comes from the company and not from a "person"?

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Wed, 12-04-2013 - 10:10am

Oh, I don't dispute that I lost thousands.

You have mentioned it before. Not something I just made up.

I'm not going to discuss the specific dollar amounts here.   You'll turn those BBs into bullet and shoot them at me 9 years from now.  No thank you.

I am sure you don't want to as it makes no sense to lose THOUSANDS of dollars unless the job was in the 10's or 100's of thousands of dollars to begin with and NO ONE puts that much down on a job.

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Wed, 12-04-2013 - 10:10am

turkeyday wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">Well this would be a situation that was pretty much black and white.  If you would like to provide an example of how a bonus wouldn't be taxable and one isn't skirting the law, I would be happy to hear that example....</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">I'm sorry your experiences in life have only been black and white that you would need to have someone give you an example. </span></strong></p>

Well, it's not logical to take one situation that is bound by IRS regulations/laws and compare it to my experiences in life..but I'm not surprised by the illogical nature of those comments, anymore than I am suprised by your lack of an example.  Honestly, I'm not sorry that I don't have experiences in the grey area of breaking laws.  It's true, I don't have a lot of expereince in breaking laws, I think this is a good thing, ymmv of course.  

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Wed, 12-04-2013 - 10:08am

One - because it is common practice to give a down payment for work to be done.  That's good business on the part of the contractor so that he can guarantee that the customer won't end up with something for nothing.

Yep, I am well aware of that. I have had a lot of work done in my home. The only way it would be THOUSANDS of dollars if the work was in the 10's or 100's of thousands of dollars. IME you pay 3 "payments". 

Two - small contractors need the funds to buy the supplies to do the work.

Yes, and?

If the contractor had been scrupulous, it woudln't have been a problem.  See, it wasn't that *I* did something wrong - it was that he did.  

That is why recommendations are highly recommended before getting someone to work on your home.

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