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Sun, 11-10-2013 - 6:53am

People that wake up everyday to sunshine regardless of the actual weather, whose lives look peachy perfect b/c of their demeanor, whose energies and smiles motivate you or make you want to strangle them... 

Or do you? 

 

 

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Mon, 11-11-2013 - 8:31am

Good you recognize that. Rolls had many times said she understands that many people find the pink hoopla comforting, and that each person dealing with cancer is a unique human being who has to develop ways of coping with the condition. You and your friend Thardy are the ones being not only demeaning, but downright nasty about Rolls and her life, and as her friend, and as someone who tries to be a decent human being, I don't like it. I (sadly) don't expect anything to change, but I'm not going to let such behavior pass by in silence, either.

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Mon, 11-11-2013 - 8:34am

What has baffled me repeatedly through these discussions here is when it is proposed that people who actually have the disease should take the same approach and find it somehow motivational and empowering. An awful lot of actual patients do not see it that way. That is really all I was trying to point out,

 This is where your word, "baffled" comes from just to be clear mops.  I think you've gotten a lot of respect for the support you like, I've spoken more than once about sites like the scar project being great if that's what you like.  The failure lies in what you think of others, the pink cause got a slam dunk of attacks last month, Likewise accusatory statements that are far from true.  And you call it baffled, I would be too if I only looked at things one way. 

 

 

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Mon, 11-11-2013 - 8:36am
Again this isn't about mops bord and if you keep making this about a poster then I will report it.

 

 

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Mon, 11-11-2013 - 8:39am
Can you watch the video that SavCal posted and turn around and defend the "pink movement," Jamblessed? You have not given any substantive response to the critique of the movement; you just keep saying its "beyond debate" even when people raise substantive and legitimate concerns about the commercialization of breast cancer and the inefficiency of the movement.
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Mon, 11-11-2013 - 8:40am
Go ahead and report it if you think it's against TOS, Jamblessed. I am more than willing to have a fair-minded moderator have a look at the thread.
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Mon, 11-11-2013 - 8:46am
Jams, your statement bears no relation to what you quote me as saying, or anything else I have said. Also, your only comment about the Scar Project was some version of it being a downer and that you disliked those kinds of links. I remain baffled by the assumption some seem to make that what is inspirational to someone healthy should also be inspirational to someone who is sick. Not sure why that makes you so, seemingly, angry.
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Mon, 11-11-2013 - 8:50am
I defend the rallies/the marches that bring people together to support a common cause and that's what was on the firing line last month. About commercialization, I have never bought a pink item at the supermarket but I have bought a VB pattern trinket (and purse one year) that ships a few cents to the breast cancer foundation. I am drawn to unicef at hallmark too even if just a few cents go to the actual foundation. Neither is the only way I give.

 


 


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Mon, 11-11-2013 - 8:54am

rollmops2009 wrote:
Jams, your statement bears no relation to what you quote me as saying, or anything else I have said. Also, your only comment about the Scar Project was some version of it being a downer and that you disliked those kinds of links. I remain baffled by the assumption some seem to make that what is inspirational to someone healthy should also be inspirational to someone who is sick. Not sure why that makes you so, seemingly, angry.

Because not all "sick" people see things the same way either.  Wow.

 


 


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Mon, 11-11-2013 - 8:57am
"I defend the rallies/the marches that bring people together to support a common cause and that's what was on the firing line last month." ------ You seem to defend them on the grounds that YOU find them inspiring and therefore they must a be a good thing. You, and anyone else, is obviously free to find them fun and inspiring. What was being debated was something quite different, namely what those rallies achieve in practical terms and relative to their stated goals AND how actual cancer patients feel about them. Both topics are addressed very well in the film Savcal posted.
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Mon, 11-11-2013 - 9:17am

bordwithyou wrote:
Can you watch the video that SavCal posted and turn around and defend the "pink movement," Jamblessed? You have not given any substantive response to the critique of the movement; you just keep saying its "beyond debate" even when people raise substantive and legitimate concerns about the commercialization of breast cancer and the inefficiency of the movement.

Further and about no "substantial response", Who are you or I to tell anybody how they should deal with cancer?  The fact that the pink movement has drawn millions speaks for itself, Frankly I wish it were around in the 1990s when my mom was dealing iwth it.  She found support in friends and family but not that, Mom probably would have painted her house pink, that's how she was, Lol, Different strokes bord.  That movement has gotten political but that seems to be the natural course the larger issues become so the discussion savcal has started is all hers to debate/defend.  I'd add little. 

 

 

 

 

 


 


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