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Sun, 11-10-2013 - 6:53am

People that wake up everyday to sunshine regardless of the actual weather, whose lives look peachy perfect b/c of their demeanor, whose energies and smiles motivate you or make you want to strangle them... 

Or do you? 

 

 

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 8:39am

bordwithyou wrote:
Yes, Jamblessed, there are obviously certain parallels in any kind of preventive maintenance.

How many times have you gotten a second opinion based on something a doctor told you?  Just curious...

 

 

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 8:40am

jamblessedthree wrote:
I would chose a resident or new MD over an N/P or P/A.  Sadly that's the direction some practices are going and that doesn't sit too well with me. </p>

I think an NP or  PA is very appropriate in many situations. When I have a sinus infection and need antibiotics, there's no need to  pay an MD to write the RX when a PA can do it.    If my kid has a cut on their foot, a PA could certainly put in 2-3 stitches. 

When there is a real diagnostic issue? Or a long-term care situation? Or surgery, etc?  Yep, I want an MD.

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 8:41am

rollmops2009 wrote:
"There is a new generation of doctors ready to replace even their jobs when the time comes..... " ------- Actually the US currently is short about 20,000 doctors and the shortage is projected to grow to around 90,000 by 2020. So they may have to find ways to encourage docs to practice past retirement age and find new incentives for people to enter the profession.

Yes, and "rural" general practitioners are in particularly short supply.  Our Health Sciences Center specializes in D.O.s, who are often groomed to be rural doctors.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 8:44am

jamblessedthree wrote:
I dind't say they were mutually exclusive but you've just supported why I couldn't do that kind of work if the bulk of your time is behind a computer. I prefer people and interaction/field work in the community. That's some computer time esp in keeping track and organizing cases but the bulk of time is not at a desk. Different strokes.

I think that "I don't wan an office job because I don't like sitting in front of a computer or behind a desk" is a bit different than "I don't want an office job because I'm a people person".  

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 8:45am

I dind't say they were mutually exclusive but you've just supported why I couldn't do that kind of work if the bulk of your time is behind a computer. I prefer people and interaction/field work in the community. That's some computer time esp in keeping track and organizing cases but the bulk of time is not at a desk or in front of a computer. Different strokes.

 

 


 


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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 8:46am

I was speaking for myself savcal not you.  I really don't know if you're a people person or not, You spend a lot of time online.

 


 


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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 8:51am

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>I was speaking for myself savcal not you.  I really don't know if you're a people person or not, You spend a lot of time online.</p>

Yes, I know you were speaking of yourself. My point was that a people person and a desk job are not mutually exclusive. 

Yes, I spend a lot of time online.  Much of my job requires internet access - and a good portion more requires computer/network access. 

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:00am
"Yes, and "rural" general practitioners are in particularly short supply. Our Health Sciences Center specializes in D.O.s, who are often groomed to be rural doctors." -------- Yes, it is apparently quite bad in some places. Apparently there are many programs to put people through med school for free if they promise to serve in underserved areas for a certain number of years. I think foreigners, who are docs, can also get green cards on similar conditions.
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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:06am
My husband has had situations where he's gotten multiple opinions for treatment options/dignoses; we've gotten second opinions on complex treatment plans for the younger son, too. Basically anything complex or long range I'd get a second opinion. Why?
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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:10am

bordwithyou wrote:
"Oh ok, so your unique role can't be replaced. And being tenured guarantees you a job, whatever it is." No, you're imagining things still.

This is the problem.  A year from now when this is tossed back into the debate, despite that is clearly not what was said and that a few people tried to correct the made up parts of the statement....what will be remembered is the imagined statement, not the real thing.  

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:11am
Bord, I got several opinions for the cancer, and it was good that I did. I am about to make an appointment with ortho #3 to figure out what to do with my back and bone loss.
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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:12am

rollmops2009 wrote:
"There is a new generation of doctors ready to replace even their jobs when the time comes..... " ------- Actually the US currently is short about 20,000 doctors and the shortage is projected to grow to around 90,000 by 2020. So they may have to find ways to encourage docs to practice past retirement age and find new incentives for people to enter the profession.

That's what I remember reading as well, there is a real shortage of doctors.

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:15am

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">bordwithyou</em> wrote:</div>Yes, Jamblessed, there are obviously certain parallels in any kind of preventive maintenance.</blockquote></p><p>How many times have you gotten a second opinion based on something a doctor told you?  Just curious...</p>

I have a couple of times, we have also gotten second opinions and/or estimates on work on our house.  On big things for both, I would always get at least a couple of opinions.  

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:17am

savcal2011 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>I dind't say they were mutually exclusive but you've just supported why I couldn't do that kind of work if the bulk of your time is behind a computer. I prefer people and interaction/field work in the community. That's some computer time esp in keeping track and organizing cases but the bulk of time is not at a desk. Different strokes.</blockquote></p><p>I think that "I don't wan an office job because I don't like sitting in front of a computer or behind a desk" is a bit different than "I don't want an office job because I'm a people person".  </p>

I think many jobs nowadays involve some kind of computer.   That could be in the form of a desk top, laptop, tablet, smart phone and whatever.  Even the delivery guys in the office use computers to scan and deliver packages and they are around people all day. 

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:20am

savcal2011 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;I was speaking for myself savcal not you.  I really don't know if you're a people person or not, You spend a lot of time online.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Yes, I know you were speaking of yourself. My point was that a people person and a desk job are not mutually exclusive. </p><p>Yes, I spend a lot of time online.  Much of my job requires internet access - and a good portion more requires computer/network access. </p>

Techanically, I'm always on line while at work.  My work is a lot of research online, email and other activities that require me being online and the computer is always online, unless the network is down.  

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:47am

My own mother went back to work part time after she retired. The first five years she babysat my niece while my sister worked , and loved it, but after the niece went to school she got bored and decided to go back to work.

Sorry to hear that she didn't have any other interests that she got bored. 

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:48am

You don't know anyone who wanted to go to work on a day and couldn't?

Not usually lololol.

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:52am

From my retired mother:

1.  Exercise classes.  You have to work around the schedule of the place giving the classes.

She has had a choice of a few times of classes. She chose one and it has worked for her for a long time.

2.  Travel.  You have to work around the schedule of airlines, hotels, and places you want to see when you arrive.  Not to mention you need to think about the time of year and  the place of destination...

She travels whenever she basically feels like it. Why would you need to worry about the time of year and place of destination? She will be going to 3 different places next year. She and friends and family got together and picked dates and places and booked. 

3.  Lunches with friends.  You have to work around friends schedules.

Why couldn't they work around YOUR schedule? Do you always just work around other's schedules? She mostly goes to lunch with her exercise mates so they go right after class so no working around other's schedules.

Do I really need to go on or do you still think the world will center around you when you retire?

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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:53am
It's not that she didn't have other interests, Fall. She missed the whole office atmosphere. She worked about 12 hours a week as a receptionist and loved it. She was very much a "people person" and enjoyed having a little office family to care for . She also did plenty of volunteer work, was an avid seamstress, loved her some crossword puzzles, and was active in desert ecology causes.
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Fri, 11-15-2013 - 9:54am
@Do I really need to go on or do you still think the world will center around you when you retire?" Why should things change just because she retires?

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