Christian Fundamentalism = Anti-intellectualism = Societal slide to the Dark Ages

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Christian Fundamentalism = Anti-intellectualism = Societal slide to the Dark Ages
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Wed, 02-20-2013 - 12:12pm

Christian Fundamentalsts are Driving Our Country Into the Dark Ages

I read this article today and I have to say that I agree.  While the Catholic church in a surprising (to me) reversal of their traditional protection of the lesser and weak of society, has been much in the news in their attempts to dismantle the single greatest step forward in medical care in this country because they don't want women--any women--to take birth control, even if the church isn't paying for it.  But they really AREN'T the worst of the bunch.  The so-called "fundi-gelicals" are the worst, for their insidious inroads into local politics and their attempted domination of the House and Senate with their Tea Party idiots.

<p>But I agree, they are leading us to intellectual ruin.  In another generation or two, if they are left unchecked, US children will rank among the lowest and least educated in the world.  Already they are all but dismantling true science education by trying to force creationism--the magic science--into the classroom.  Our children can barely read, they consistently fall behind most every other 1st world country in math and science.  And we're abdicating our nation's food sources to Monsanto and corporate farming.

<p>I had a dream a week ago that I was a very old woman, telling my great grandchildren about how I used to be able to vote.

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Links? Examples to support what you're saying? A thesis about a what if is different than a scientific theory about a what if. Thesis does not = theory. HP is literature, not a scientific document. Likewise, the Bible isn't a scientific document any more than HP is.

And you never answered my question which theory of creationism in the Bible you would teach. And why.

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There are no facts that disprove the existence of God.
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Jam, do you not see the difference between teaching/enjoying Harry Potter as literature and writing a science paper using spells from Harry Potter to explain the origins of life???
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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>That's interesting, Why propose a bill to begin with?  Unless the kid got an automatic F for stepping outside the box there's no reason for a school to DISqualify that kind of paper.  My DD's teacher has discussed creationism to her class, So much so that she came home armed with information and facts that DISPROVE the God we pray to every Sunday, I think it's wonderful these opportunities get people/families talking.  Our changing times and cultures demand changing curriculums. </p>

Are you kidding? If a kid handed in a paper in biology or physics class that was not based on science, you can bet your life that I would give it an automatic F. There is "no outside the box" in math or science unless its based on the principles of math or science. Einstein was an "outside the box" thinker, but his thinking advanced the science in his field, not creative fiction.

A STEM curriculum needs to grounded in science and math, mixed with innovation and imagination on how to advance with the underlying principles. Innovation may be cultural, but science is not.

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Edited, Nevermind, I think I'm threw!

 


 


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I read it before you erased it. It's good to know that you give up when you've lost the debate point, but not very gracefully.

How many reputable peer reviewed citations support the "science" of creationism? I believe that would be NONE, but feel free to prove me wrong.

RE article from Alternet - It is a liberal source that consolidates and reports on the crazy. I was not aware of the peer review requirement to post an article on this board. But lets look at the facts. Gus Blackwell did introduce the bill in OK (not disputable). He does not deny the quotes in the article(not disputable). I could provide the source to both the law and the quotes, but I'm threw [sic].

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lifespeachy wrote:
<p>I was thinking about this thread, and the different conversations that I've had over the last year.  As a Christian, I am more concerned with the heart of a person than with trying to legislate righteousness.   I have a hard time understanding how anyone would think that's a good idea, or even possible.</p>

Agreed.  And to put it in the bluntest Christian terms possible, if it WERE possible to legislate righteousness, we would never have needed God to give us Jesus.

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Kitty

"If you can't annoy somebody with what you write, I think there's little point in writing."-- Kingsley Amis, British novelist, 1971 t .

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double post

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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>That's interesting, Why propose a bill to begin with?  Unless the kid got an automatic F for stepping outside the box there's no reason for a school to DISqualify that kind of paper.  My DD's teacher has discussed creationism to her class, So much so that she came home armed with information and facts that DISPROVE the God we pray to every Sunday, I think it's wonderful these opportunities get people/families talking.  Our changing times and cultures demand changing curriculums. </p>

I just don't see the deliberate teaching of lies as science to be an "opportunity" for anything other than another giant step towards the return of the Dark Ages.

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Kitty

"If you can't annoy somebody with what you write, I think there's little point in writing."-- Kingsley Amis, British novelist, 1971 t .

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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>I don't know, There are some people that do place Harry Potter out there as some holy grail, Search this board's archcives and you might find some of it, Lol.   I get your point but dont' agree with it, Many a thesis are about the what ifs....</p>

That's a lie. 

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Kitty

"If you can't annoy somebody with what you write, I think there's little point in writing."-- Kingsley Amis, British novelist, 1971 t .

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