Christian Fundamentalism = Anti-intellectualism = Societal slide to the Dark Ages

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Christian Fundamentalism = Anti-intellectualism = Societal slide to the Dark Ages
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Wed, 02-20-2013 - 12:12pm

Christian Fundamentalsts are Driving Our Country Into the Dark Ages

I read this article today and I have to say that I agree.  While the Catholic church in a surprising (to me) reversal of their traditional protection of the lesser and weak of society, has been much in the news in their attempts to dismantle the single greatest step forward in medical care in this country because they don't want women--any women--to take birth control, even if the church isn't paying for it.  But they really AREN'T the worst of the bunch.  The so-called "fundi-gelicals" are the worst, for their insidious inroads into local politics and their attempted domination of the House and Senate with their Tea Party idiots.

<p>But I agree, they are leading us to intellectual ruin.  In another generation or two, if they are left unchecked, US children will rank among the lowest and least educated in the world.  Already they are all but dismantling true science education by trying to force creationism--the magic science--into the classroom.  Our children can barely read, they consistently fall behind most every other 1st world country in math and science.  And we're abdicating our nation's food sources to Monsanto and corporate farming.

<p>I had a dream a week ago that I was a very old woman, telling my great grandchildren about how I used to be able to vote.

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ashmama wrote:
<p>Not a fundie, but as a devout Christian, I do feel an obligation to speak up for my faith. </p><p>I am as concerned about the culture of political correctness quelching genuine debate as I am about fundamentalists (of any religion) turning this country into an anti-intellectual backwater. Our very language has been bastardized to the point where we can only use the "correct" terminology for things or risk being called a bigot. Why not just have a dialogue where all sides are respected?</p><p>My kids go to a Christian school. Although the worldview taught there is orthodox Christianity (e.g. the Bible is the word of God, though not necessarily literally interpreted; it is hoped that students will choose to believe in Christ as their savior, etc.), there are students of other faiths, or no faith at all. Evolution is taught in science classes, and sex ed is taught in health class.</p><p>What's really interesting is that both of my kids report that class discussions are much more open and intellectually honest than any they had in public school, and DD went thru the 10th grade in public school. Why? Because nothing is off limits. They really can and do talk about anything, including sex, religion, race, politics, and homosexuality without the sense that they have to tread carefully or risk offending parents.</p><p> As a counter-example, one of DD's friends is taking the same AP lit class DD is, only at her old public school. This girl had no idea that there were significant Christian themes in Beowulf because the idea was barely addressed. Another book, which dealt with the Japanese occupation of Korea before WWII, was taken out of the curriculum at our public middle school because a Korean parent complained that the Japanese protagonist was portrayed in too positive a light. By contrast, this same book has been recommended reading in the Christian middle school for years, even though we have a lot more Chinese and Korean students than the lily white public school ever did.</p><p>I don't disagree that fundamentalism is dangerous (and I know plenty of young earth creationists), but it's not the only threat to intellectual rigor in this country. The real threat, to me, is people not feeling free to discuss the issues for fear of being called intolerant and hateful. I don't want my children being taught the earth is only 6000 years old, but I'm equally averse to having books banned from the curriculum because they are considered insensitive.</p>

My public schooled children have had a different experience.  As parent and Catholic I agree with the local public school not promoting a controversial, opinionated text about the Japanese occupation.  Same with the teachers not introducing Christian themes in Beowulf.  However, students are welcome to introduce a classroom dialogue about these things, and even to write papers solely about Christian themes in Beowulf.

Students have freedom of speech ~ public schools and their teachers may or may not.  They're speaking from a position of authority opening the school district up to lawsuits and constitutional law.  Not so with public school students.  Or private schools and teachers.

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[post]While the Catholic church in a surprising (to me) reversal of their traditional protection of the lesser and weak of society, has been much in the news in their attempts to dismantle the single greatest step forward in medical care in this country because they don't want women--any women--to take birth control, even if the church isn't paying for it.[/post]

I think that's the way the RCC has always been.

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"My kid gets exposed to a lot of things and most of it's good, But she has come home and tried to prove to me/us there is no God b/c there's no hard evidence of it."

OK, but that is a classic response of kids when first introduced to the concept of evidence. My own DH was a fervent atheist for a spell there, when he was 11. As I am sure you explained to her, it is not up to science to settle this question. If her teacher is any good at all, I am equally sure that her teacher did not present the lesson as disproving the existence of God.

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Did her science teacher supply her the reading materials questioning the existence of God?
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mops, My kid gets exposed to a lot of things and most of it's good, But she has come home and tried to prove to me/us there is no God b/c there's no hard evidence of it. Made for wonderful conversation, It really is important to talk to your kids, Just sayin'

 


 


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"So much so that she came home armed with information and facts that DISPROVE the God we pray to every Sunday,"

Then either the teacher is mistaken or your kid misunderstood, because there is no science that can either prove or disprove the existence of God. 

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I think it's pretty important to understand the source of information. There are reputable conservative moderate and liberal sources in journalism. Occasionally some with an agenda will have a true story, e.g. John Edwards National Enquirer.

The source never makes a story untrue. What about what I
posted is in dispute (except that you don't want to debate it?)

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Lol, You got it! 

 


 


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