Christian Fundamentalism = Anti-intellectualism = Societal slide to the Dark Ages

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Christian Fundamentalism = Anti-intellectualism = Societal slide to the Dark Ages
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Wed, 02-20-2013 - 12:12pm

Christian Fundamentalsts are Driving Our Country Into the Dark Ages

I read this article today and I have to say that I agree.  While the Catholic church in a surprising (to me) reversal of their traditional protection of the lesser and weak of society, has been much in the news in their attempts to dismantle the single greatest step forward in medical care in this country because they don't want women--any women--to take birth control, even if the church isn't paying for it.  But they really AREN'T the worst of the bunch.  The so-called "fundi-gelicals" are the worst, for their insidious inroads into local politics and their attempted domination of the House and Senate with their Tea Party idiots.

<p>But I agree, they are leading us to intellectual ruin.  In another generation or two, if they are left unchecked, US children will rank among the lowest and least educated in the world.  Already they are all but dismantling true science education by trying to force creationism--the magic science--into the classroom.  Our children can barely read, they consistently fall behind most every other 1st world country in math and science.  And we're abdicating our nation's food sources to Monsanto and corporate farming.

<p>I had a dream a week ago that I was a very old woman, telling my great grandchildren about how I used to be able to vote.

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Puss,

I think that part of the problem is that the general public doesn't understand the term "theory".  While I believe that the fundies are a vocal minority, I know a lot of (otherwise) smart people who proclaim that evolution is nothing more than a theory, and shold be taught as such.  I find it truly frightening.

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  • It would seem that some have dificulty differentiating between basic science and history text books.
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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Wrong, The fear is it would kill evolution which is not true, That's the ignorance.  Creationism is already discussed in the classroom, Bible class may be on it's way in. </p><p>Lol, Charlatans and incompetent teachers, What a poor generation we're raising! </p>

Please clarify ...   evolution is not true? Or ... "teaching creationism would kill evolution" is not true?

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You were perfectly clear to me. Others appear confused.

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jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Puss, I don't think the bible was ever intended to be taken literally either, There are many interpretations of it over the years too.  But place a bible in a classroom and ask a student to compare parts of it to popular/modern culture and poof, You've got a class!  Those are the thoughts of acatual educators anyway. </p>

If I gave the impression that my objections were to comparative literature and history, I apologize.  I believed then (as now) that my rather pointed use of science terms and discussing how there is no "theory of creationism" would make it plain to anyone reading that my objection is to using the Bible as a science text.

I will work harder to make myself clear.

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I don't see how anyone can claim to be educated in the western tradition without having read the Bible, since it informs so much of western art, literature, and music. But it should not be dictating what goes on in science classrooms.
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Puss, I don't think the bible was ever intended to be taken literally either, There are many interpretations of it over the years too.  But place a bible in a classroom and ask a student to compare parts of it to popular/modern culture and poof, You've got a class!  Those are the thoughts of acatual educators anyway. 

 


 


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Politics aside, the problems I cited remain. People who are in a position to make policy seem ignorant of basic scientific facts about human biology. People who interpret and report on these facts seem to be engaging in some form of "magical thinking." And yes, I am quite aware of the trajectory of church history, having earned a PhD in the subject some twenty years ago, having taught it for a quarter century, having published fairly extensively on the subject, and now an a proud Doktor-Mutter of three budding Church historians.
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Right, The libs that pretend there's a war on women and the fantaticals that keep their panties in a bunch!  Lol!  You do know, The RCC is making strides in suing the federal government and protecting their fundamental rights, don't you? 

Church history is older than Medeival history, Or so the theologians say. 

 


 


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Yeah, when we have legislators who think women's bodies can shut down pregnancies in the case of "legitimate rape," or that the fetus is the "largest organ" in a pregnant woman's body," and we have supposedly educated news anchors who can get on national television and wonder whether asteroids approaching earth's orbit are caused by global warming, then we have a problem. A very serious educational problem. Creation stories have their place in public schools. I teach them in history classes. My kids learned some of them in Latin class, and in world literature classes. They are often profoundly and meaningful beautiful stories. But they have no place in science classes.

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