Condoms for 12 year olds?

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Condoms for 12 year olds?
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Mon, 03-19-2012 - 2:35pm

A school district in MA is considering offering condoms to students as young as 12, they are seeing sexual activity, STDs and pregnancy affecting kids even at this age.

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Mon, 03-26-2012 - 9:27pm
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I think some would, yes. Because the school won't beat the child for it. The school won't ground the child for 12 weeks. The school won't berate the child. The school won't tell the kid "I don't love you anymore."

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Same place they'd get it without the condom.

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Mon, 03-26-2012 - 9:28pm
Aha .. I stand corrected. I'm most familiar with Oklahoma's laws.

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Tue, 03-27-2012 - 2:44am

You seem really stuck on where these 12 year olds are having sex and seem confused that the school is going to be providing

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Tue, 03-27-2012 - 5:07am
Or school could resource it out.. Because if a 12 or 13 kid is sneaking around and having sex there are larger problems in his world than needing a condom.... Odd that you would say conservatives are cynical about this, Tell me something I don't know, Are you saying they shouldn't be? There's the whole morality about this too, Or are the poor not moral people?

 


 


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Tue, 03-27-2012 - 9:00am
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That wouldn't work. The point of doing it in the schools is that kids are already there. They are all going to school. If you do it through planned parenthood or a similar organization or through a health department, how do they get to the kids? Would the kids go to them? Doubtful.

<< Because if a 12 or 13 kid is sneaking around and having sex there are larger problems in his world than needing a condom>.

Really? Isn't that something all of us here have already expressed? Multiple times?

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Tue, 03-27-2012 - 10:35am
I dunno. I'm pretty liberal, and I don't think handing out condoms to 12-year-olds is the best solution. "Bandaid" is a good term here. It may make people feel like they're doing something to solve the problem, but I'm not convinced that a 12-yr-old having sex is going to plan ahead and go to the school nurse for birth control. Preventing STDs and pregnancy is a health issue, and I'm also doubtful that schools can do this without parental consent (and I believe the article says parents can opt out), so it isn't necessarily going to prevent parents from knowing their kids are getting condoms. Finally, for those who think it's a good idea, is there any age at which it isn't a good idea to normalize this behavior? Should we give out condoms in elementary school? Would anybody want their own 12-yr-old (or elementary school kid) to go to a school where condoms were given out? Is it just a good enough solution for these problem kids, but not our own?
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Tue, 03-27-2012 - 11:38am
Yes, it is a band-aid. But that's because the schools can't fix the real problem; the real problem lies with families and society. So, if the real problem is some disease or condition, but it causes bleeding, shouldn't you put a band-aid on it to staunch the bloodflow until the disease can be treated? Band-aids aren't bad; they serve a purpose. But they shouldn't be the only treatment. And I don't think anyone is suggesting that the school hand out condoms and the problem goes away or that there be no other response to 12yo sex.

I don't think this "normalizes" the behavior. It is just recognizing it exists. It's addressing the elephant in the room, not saying it's okay to have an elephant in your dining room.

If my 12yo's school (and I have an almost 12yo) gave out condoms, I wouldn't pull him from school. But truly, this wouldn't be "my kid"; if I had any inkling that my 12yo was having sex, *I* would be providing him condoms. It's not about "good enough for problem kids but not our own" because if our own kids were having sex, they instantly become, imo, one of the problem kids.

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Tue, 03-27-2012 - 11:53am
Sometimes a bandaid makes people feel like they've solved the problem, or done all they can, when they haven't. I'm not convinced having the school nurse pass out condoms, with the parents' permission, is going to get kids to use them. I have a 12-yr-old, and I don't think I would send her to a school where there were so many kids that age having sex they felt the school nurse needed to pass out condoms. I doubt I'm alone there.
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Tue, 03-27-2012 - 11:56am

I don't think anyone here thought giving kids the condoms would solve the actual problem and that no further action

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Tue, 03-27-2012 - 12:23pm
I'm not really talking about what anyone here thinks it's enough, though. I doubt any of us has kids who attend a school where 12-year-olds are given condoms. I'm talking about a school that is actually doing this. To me, handing out condoms to 12-year-olds sounds like a last resort.

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