Condoms for 12 year olds?

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Condoms for 12 year olds?
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Mon, 03-19-2012 - 2:35pm

A school district in MA is considering offering condoms to students as young as 12, they are seeing sexual activity, STDs and pregnancy affecting kids even at this age.

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Wed, 03-28-2012 - 7:34am

Actually school drop-outs do contribute to this conversation because school drop outs mean that socio problem continues.. Keeping kids in schools, Keeping kids involved and working WITH families is critical IMO. I'm not sure how what you witness contributes to this conversation, It doesn't mean a thing to what social programs are designed to do at school.

 


 


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Registered: 10-23-2001
Wed, 03-28-2012 - 8:10am
Some 11 and 12 YO kids are still in 5th grade here, they get the deodorant talk, Why boys perspire different than girls, That moves onto sex ed but in total matter of fact terms - menstruation, egg, sperm, etc. There would be a big leap b/w that education and condoms if school passed them out at that age..

 


 


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Registered: 05-13-2009
Wed, 03-28-2012 - 8:42am



How can it not. I live 100 miles from Springfield and I know they have an std and pregnancy epidemic among their teens and preteens. If a parent were clueless about what their under supervised child was doing, they certainly couldn't pretend innocence now.



People often care only about their own problems, not the problems in their community. Until their own little Janie or Johnny came home with an std, they may have been unaware of the problem. The schools have a much broader view of the problem, the parents see it from the perspective of their child, who, of course, would never engage in that kind of activity...until they did.

The relevant issue to Springfield is that teens and preteens are having unprotected sex. Can they stop them from engaging in this behavior? The school board doesn't think they can, so the only weapon they have is to help this children be marginally safer by providing condoms and education about safe sex. Pretending there isn't a problem doesn't seem to work.

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Registered: 10-06-2010
Wed, 03-28-2012 - 9:01am
So you condone unprotected sex?

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Registered: 10-06-2010
Wed, 03-28-2012 - 9:02am
<< If your main concern is preventing STDs and pregnancy, then passing out condoms is a good solution, >>

While that may not be teh community's *main* concern, it is the concern that is being addressed by this program. It doesn't mean it's the only concern being addressed by the school/community/parents.

Nothing has indicated the school has given up.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Registered: 10-06-2010
Wed, 03-28-2012 - 9:04am
5th graders get the menstruation, egg sperm talk in our district. No leaping here.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Registered: 10-06-2010
Wed, 03-28-2012 - 9:07am
An analogy: Car manufacturers can't *stop* accidents; they cant' stop people from being inattentive, texting, drinking and driving; they cant' stop pedestrians from bolting out in front of cars; they can't stop a driver from hitting a patch of black ice adn spinning out.

But they can make the effects of those accidents less - by installing airbags and other safety measures.

but, since airbags don't address the real problem; they don't prevent accidents, should car manufacturers stop providing air bags? I think most people would say "hell no!". Condoms aren't much different. Schools (alone) can't prevent the kids from having sex, but they can mitigage the results of that sex.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Registered: 05-13-2009
Wed, 03-28-2012 - 9:39am
I'll trust the school committee and the Mayor in this community to know more than you or I to understand the needs of their community. They have informed the parents that a significant number of children, 27% according to one stat, are engaging in sex at an early age. The parents have the ability to opt their children out of the program to obtain condoms from the school nurse.

What's your solution? The please don't have sex talks don't seem to work, and ignoring the problem, as you seem to suggest, is putting kids at risk.

Springfield is not really a poor community by any but Massachusetts standards.

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Wed, 03-28-2012 - 10:08am
And when a final decision is reached please do share, For now, the ruling consideration is debateable...... About poverty in Springfield MA, According to city-data dot com poverty there is twice as high as the state average, Are you saying the problem is unique to MA? Poverty is very real in many areas.

I don't know what works but I have thrown out ideas that you don't agree with, Fine. Justifying why condoms should be passed out to 12 YOs is far from the right answer too.

 


 


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Registered: 05-13-2009
Wed, 03-28-2012 - 10:42am


And what ideas were those other than leave it to the parents? If you had more, I missed them, point me to those posts.

I have never disagreed with the fact that middle schoolers having sex is a good thing. I don't think the a solution for the community's and family's failure to educate and protect their children from early sexual activity is the handing out condoms to young children.

But the activity exists, and until the unlying reason for early sexual activity is resolved, condoms treat a symptom. It appears the Springfield school committee wants to get out in front of the activity by interceding with the school nurse's counseling the students first, then distributing condoms.

I would think that this problem is not limited to poor communities, because there are many communities with much fewer resources than Springfield that don't have this particular problem. This doesn't really seem to be a rich or poor issue. Do you know otherwise?

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