Condoms for 12 year olds?

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Condoms for 12 year olds?
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Mon, 03-19-2012 - 2:35pm

A school district in MA is considering offering condoms to students as young as 12, they are seeing sexual activity, STDs and pregnancy affecting kids even at this age.

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Wed, 03-28-2012 - 1:12pm
This article is about high schools, though (and although I admit I mostly skimmed it, it appears to report how many condoms students received rather than actual reductions in pregnancy and STD rates). I don't disagree with giving out condoms in high schools. I think there is an age at which you really can't prevent kids from having sex. I just don't think 12 is it.
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Wed, 03-28-2012 - 12:59pm
Nope, wasn't me.

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Wed, 03-28-2012 - 12:59pm
<< Passing out condoms means you acknowledge you can't prevent the kids from having sex>.

Yes. And the schools *can't* prevent the kids from having sex. It's not a problem the schools alone can fix.

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Wed, 03-28-2012 - 12:56pm
Aren't you the one that posted the link from the neighboring community on which they modeled this program? Maybe that was another poster. There its been in place for 6 years, and although they claim it has reduced the rate of STDs, teen pregnancy rates haven't been impacted, which begs the question of how they wouldn't be if the kids are actually using them correctly. So it doesn't appear that the symptoms or the underlying problem are being addressed with this solution.
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Wed, 03-28-2012 - 12:56pm
It didn't help in current study of Holyoke, but it has helped decrease pregnancy rate based on studies other communities.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/2819696.html

To tell you the truth, when discussing this issue with my 14 and 17yo last night, my blinders came off. There was much more sexual activity going on in my community in middle school than I could ever have imagined. My 12yo, who is still in middle school, was more cagey in his answers, but he is aware of classmates who may be doing things in the sexual realm (he's a Santorum fan). It is not a public health issue here at the moment, because there in no outbreak of stds and teen and preteen pregnancies, but it is happening here too.
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Wed, 03-28-2012 - 12:52pm
I don't recall ever saying that passing out condoms meant the school (or you) condoned 12-yr-olds having sex. I said that it was a sign they'd given up. Passing out condoms means you acknowledge you can't prevent the kids from having sex, so you're going to try to make sure they have safe sex. I would agree that there is a certain age at which you really can't prevent kids from having sex, but I think that 12-year-olds are too young to give up on. There are other things you can do, and there are so many issues with a kid that young having sex--they're headed for a lifetime of troubles. It's just sad.
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Wed, 03-28-2012 - 12:48pm
Programs have been effective in other places. Other data exists to support the effectiveness of such programs:

<<. A survey from 1986 concluded that teens would be more influenced to use condoms if they were free, easy to get, and if they were guaranteed confidentiality.>>
-- http://articles.mibba.com/Health/4238/Should-Public-High-Schools-In-America-Have-Condom-Availability-Programs

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-- http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/449?task=view

http://whatworksforhealth.wisc.edu/program.asp?t1=21&t2=14&t3=96&id=149

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Wed, 03-28-2012 - 12:44pm
Of course it hasn't helped the teen pregnancy rate - the program hasn't been implemented yet!

The problem isn't STDs and teen pregnancy; that is the symptom. And the schools are trying to treat the symptoms ... until society at large can solve the problem.

but, if you'd like, we can just let STDs and teen pregancy rage on until the overall problem is solved.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Wed, 03-28-2012 - 12:42pm
It appears that middle school sexual activity is much more common than I would have believed.

Middle School Youth As Young As 12 Engaging In Risky Sexual Activity

ScienceDaily (Apr. 8, 2009) — Middle school youth are engaging in sexual intercourse as early as age 12, according to a study by researchers at The University of Texas School of Public Health....

According to their research, by age 12, 12 percent of students had already engaged in vaginal sex, 7.9 percent in oral sex, 6.5 percent in anal sex and 4 percent in all three types of intercourse.

According to my high age kids, 14 and 17, they did know some kids in middle school who were sexually active. We live in a small community, with high ses, with lots of resources with free or low cost after school and summer activities.


Who pays for what? Condoms, pamphlets in schools like one Springfield proposes?...I would imagine it would be the local taxpayer if schools derive their budget that way.
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Wed, 03-28-2012 - 12:41pm
No one thinks it is addressing the underlying problem. But until that problem is fixed (which will take a lot more money and resources than the school has), they have to mitigate the circumstances.

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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