Controversial Stories in the News ~

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Wed, 10-30-2013 - 11:00am

Your opinions....

1.)   SeaWorld and O.S.H.A.  Will the Supreme Court allow trainers to swim with the killer whales after the 2010 death of trainer Dawn Brancheau?  (O.S.H.A. ordered trainers to no longer swim with the orcas in the SeaWorld pools.)   http://news.yahoo.com/seaworld-appeal-could-force-taming-popular-orca-shows-100122978--sector.html

2.)   High School football ~ Should schools continue to allow a contact sport which is known to cause concussions?  Is there really a safer helmet?

3.)   The Central Park Jogger "Five" ~ now all out of jail after having finished their sentences.  Were they guilty or not guilty?

4.)   NSA spying on other world leaders' conversations.  Right or wrong?

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Fri, 11-01-2013 - 1:38pm

savcal2011 wrote:
<p>Please don't try to tell me what I meant to do.  I did exactly as I meant.</p>

Yah, because that's what I was doing.  Drama much?

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Fri, 11-01-2013 - 11:00am

Please don't try to tell me what I meant to do.  I did exactly as I meant.

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Fri, 11-01-2013 - 10:48am

savcal2011 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">thardy2001</em> wrote:</div>Again, cheerleading has nothing to do with the inordinate number of former football players, now suffering brain damage, who've lately come forward to speak out against football because of the inevitability of repeat concussions.  It is newsworthy.  Any parent who cracks open a newspaper and still allows her son(s) to play football is a bad parent.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Umm, okay. I didn't say cheerleading was connected to football injuries.  I didn't say anything that is contradictory to what you just posted.</p>

Um...Exactly.  You meant to post in another thread somewhere, on some other message board. @@

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Fri, 11-01-2013 - 10:11am

<<Again, cheerleading has nothing to do with the inordinate number of former football players, now suffering brain damage, who've lately come forward to speak out against football because of the inevitability of repeat concussions.  It is newsworthy.  Any parent who cracks open a newspaper and still allows her son(s) to play football is a bad parent.>>

Nobody connected those two, except you.  But most of what you posted supports my comments about the need for education, prevention and proper treatment of concussions.  I read about Jim McMahon in Sports Illustrated I think about a year ago in regards to the problem not only with repeat concussions but the lack of proper treatment of those concussions.  Yes, there have been other NFL players to come forward with the same issues and the lack of education, treatment and prevention in the NFL.

To limit this discussion to football only, instead of looking at all sports and then the education, treatement and prevention of concussions is a very limited, expand your thinking and education on the subject.  First up....does the school and/or sports program for any contact sports have baseline testing for concussions?  What is the education and training for the coaches and athletic trainers on the fields and in practice?  What are they doing to prevent concussions?  What are steps once a child has a possible concussion?    What is is the treament, what are the steps for return play?  Etc, etc, etc.

IF your school and/or sports program doesn't have a plan in place for concussions (and other injuries) for all sports, then as a parent you need to make a smart decision on the issues, but don't base that education on what you read in the newspaper.  Talk to the school, the AD, the coaches and the trainers first hand to find out this information.


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Fri, 11-01-2013 - 9:30am

thardy2001 wrote:
Again, cheerleading has nothing to do with the inordinate number of former football players, now suffering brain damage, who've lately come forward to speak out against football because of the inevitability of repeat concussions.  It is newsworthy.  Any parent who cracks open a newspaper and still allows her son(s) to play football is a bad parent.</p>

Umm, okay. I didn't say cheerleading was connected to football injuries.  I didn't say anything that is contradictory to what you just posted.

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Thu, 10-31-2013 - 10:30pm

savcal2011 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">thardy2001</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;savcal2011&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;Don't forget cheerleading. It's one of the sports that creates the most injuries.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;???  I mentioned "concussions" and the ongoing controversy about football.  I have great familiarity with high school sports ~ heck, most people do!  To claim that cheerleading or tennis or basketball even come close to the concussion rate and debilitating, life-long injuries football inflicts is just pure insanity or posturing.  I often don't know which when you and your buddy hold hands and frolic past the hookah-smoking caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland.  &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p> </p><p>While there is some debate as to how high cheerleading ranks among other sports in terms of injuries, even the articles that debunk it as the #1 injury-related sport (not a claim I am making, btw), support that it is a sport that is rife with injury.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://ussa.edu/publications/news/2011/04/08/cheerleading-ranks-first-in-catastrophic-sport-injuries/" rel="nofollow">http://ussa.edu/publications/news/2011/04/08/cheerleading-ranks-first-in-catastrophic-sport-injuries/</a> </p><p><a href="http://health.usnews.com/health-news/news/articles/2013/06/28/as-cheerleading-evolves-injuries-mount" rel="nofollow">http://health.usnews.com/health-news/news/articles/2013/06/28/as-cheerleading-evolves-injuries-mount</a></p><p><a href="http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/cheerleading-really-more-dangerous-other-sports-162000399.html" rel="nofollow">http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/cheerleading-really-more-dangerous-other-sports-162000399.html</a></p>

Again, cheerleading has nothing to do with the inordinate number of former football players, now suffering brain damage, who've lately come forward to speak out against football because of the inevitability of repeat concussions.  It is newsworthy.  Any parent who cracks open a newspaper and still allows her son(s) to play football is a bad parent.

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Thu, 10-31-2013 - 12:15pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">savcal2011</em> wrote:</div>Don't forget cheerleading. It's one of the sports that creates the most injuries.</blockquote></p><p>???  I mentioned "concussions" and the ongoing controversy about football.  I have great familiarity with high school sports ~ heck, most people do!  To claim that cheerleading or tennis or basketball even come close to the concussion rate and debilitating, life-long injuries football inflicts is just pure insanity or posturing.  I often don't know which when you and your buddy hold hands and frolic past the hookah-smoking caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland.  </p>

 

While there is some debate as to how high cheerleading ranks among other sports in terms of injuries, even the articles that debunk it as the #1 injury-related sport (not a claim I am making, btw), support that it is a sport that is rife with injury.

 

http://ussa.edu/publications/news/2011/04/08/cheerleading-ranks-first-in-catastrophic-sport-injuries/ 

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/news/articles/2013/06/28/as-cheerleading-evolves-injuries-mount

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/cheerleading-really-more-dangerous-other-sports-162000399.html

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Thu, 10-31-2013 - 11:21am

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">savcal2011</em> wrote:</div>Don't forget cheerleading. It's one of the sports that creates the most injuries.</blockquote></p><p>???  I mentioned "concussions" and the ongoing controversy about football.  I have great familiarity with high school sports ~ heck, most people do!  To claim that cheerleading or tennis or basketball even come close to the concussion rate and debilitating, life-long injuries football inflicts is just pure insanity or posturing.  I often don't know which when you and your buddy hold hands and frolic past the hookah-smoking caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland.  </p>

Ime there is an ongoing controversy about concussions, in general, in high school sports.  We were both pointing out that limiting that controversy to one single sport is a bit silly and I'm saying it shows a real lack of education on the subject.  Expand your limited view if you wish to show familiarity on the subject because so far, I don't see any familarity, let alone a great one.  

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57610064/many-high-school-athletes-at-greater-concussion-risk-than-college-counterparts-report/

PS. You need to speak to "nobody" because that is the only person who claimed what you stated in your post, perhaps you could direct your lovely comments to that poster instead?  That might be a bit more logical, at least.

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Wed, 10-30-2013 - 10:57pm

savcal2011 wrote:
Don't forget cheerleading. It's one of the sports that creates the most injuries.

???  I mentioned "concussions" and the ongoing controversy about football.  I have great familiarity with high school sports ~ heck, most people do!  To claim that cheerleading or tennis or basketball even come close to the concussion rate and debilitating, life-long injuries football inflicts is just pure insanity or posturing.  I often don't know which when you and your buddy hold hands and frolic past the hookah-smoking caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland. 

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Wed, 10-30-2013 - 10:44pm

savcal2011 wrote:
Don't forget cheerleading. It's one of the sports that creates the most injuries.

Forgot cheerleading, thanks.  That one is really scary.

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