Curious.....

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Curious.....
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Thu, 04-12-2007 - 6:22pm

I've been thinking about the recent discussion about "opinions" and the Imus case comes to mind as an example, an extreme example for sure...but an example none the less.


Here's a link to one of the many stories about this issue


http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/09/imus.ap/index.html?eref=ew?cid=CNN+Showbiz+Feed


So is it true, if someone

PumpkinAngel

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In reply to: pumpkinangel
Thu, 04-19-2007 - 4:23pm

Okay, done that.


Here is the statement, can you explain what you meant about it being a behavior?

PumpkinAngel

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In reply to: pumpkinangel
Thu, 04-19-2007 - 4:26pm

Again, I never stated that.

PumpkinAngel

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In reply to: pumpkinangel
Thu, 04-19-2007 - 4:28pm

So it was a mom2fourgrls

PumpkinAngel

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In reply to: pumpkinangel
Thu, 04-19-2007 - 4:29pm

So where do you draw the line about what to make fun of and not?


PumpkinAngel

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In reply to: pumpkinangel
Thu, 04-19-2007 - 5:14pm

Let me try to explain this in the same way I would to my children. One child commits a punishable offense and gets caught, as I'm doling his punishment, he indignantly speaks up that his bother did it too. I explain that I when I see his brother commit the offense, he will be held to the same standard, and he will a receive his just punishment; the events are unrelated, though the punishment may be similar because they are based on my standards. If you want to propose a subthread on the language of rappers, I may engage in it based on the merit of that debate. Otherwise, it is still not part of the Imus debate. Please establish a context other than "well, he said it, too."

I believe the public airways censor most of the racially explicit and misogynistic content.

How many children vote? How many young black men vote? I believe the voting statistics for any race under 25 is quite astonishing.

Imus rebranded himself in the 90s as a political pundit.

So you would never,ever find yourself in a position to apologize? You've never hurt someone's feelings by being unwitting truthful? You've never had to concede an argument in the interest of compromise? I guess I'm just remarkably accommodating in the interest of peace and tranquility in my life and social interaction.

I know a lot of people who care about the feelings of others. Racism, like everything else, exists in a broad spectrum, from a white child repeating harsh racial epithets learned from their parents on the playground, to Imus' racial slur against the Rutgers women, to the burning crosses of the KKK.

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In reply to: pumpkinangel
Thu, 04-19-2007 - 5:20pm
Because if a word is offensive or you feel is racist why would you use that word? I do not understand the logic I can say the N word because I am black but you cant say the N word because you arent. It really makes no sense.
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In reply to: pumpkinangel
Thu, 04-19-2007 - 5:22pm
You asked me if I knew what went on in your son'e elementary school which implied to me that "jokes about physical appearance" don't happen there.
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In reply to: pumpkinangel
Thu, 04-19-2007 - 5:22pm
Just for the record...nappy headed is in reference to very curly hair. I believe I have stated before that my hair designer has called my hair nappy more times than I could even tell you. So no nappy headed is not derogatory it is indeed an accurate description of very curly hair. Ho in no context is racist. You could probably get away with saying Ho is sexist but here we are again that I dont give words enough power to bother me.
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In reply to: pumpkinangel
Thu, 04-19-2007 - 5:23pm
My comments were related to more than that one post. Honestly, I don't really care to discuss this anymore. You see blonde jokes as making fun of blondes based on appearance and I don't see it that way at all.
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In reply to: pumpkinangel
Thu, 04-19-2007 - 5:24pm
I don't go out of my way to make fun of people which is what you have insinuated.

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