Education and politics

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Thu, 12-05-2013 - 7:45am

http://dianeravitch.net/2013/12/03/my-view-of-the-pisa-scores/

I always find it interesting the continued attention to other countries the United States compares itself to, Perhaps that's the root of the problem after all.  This author makes a lot of outstanding points. 

Thoughts? 

 

 

 

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Fri, 12-06-2013 - 12:04pm

Thardy, not all of my studies are conducted inside a classroom. Have you stopped exploring your own personal thoughts just because you've completed your education?

I understand that women aren't a numerical minority, but they are a minority group as defined sociologically.  

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Fri, 12-06-2013 - 12:09pm

just_another_marla wrote:
<p>Thardy, not all of my studies are conducted inside a classroom. Have you stopped exploring your own personal thoughts just because you've completed your education?<br /><br />I understand that women aren't a <em>numerical</em> minority, but they are a minority group as defined sociologically.  </p>

Women are not a minority in fact or in the law.   Maybe your course of studies isn't beneficial.  That happens.

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Fri, 12-06-2013 - 12:10pm

The older my own special ed child becomes the more we are uncovering new opportunities for her, Testing isn't stupid, it's critical to assessing her needs and accomodations, But it's a team effort and myself, DH and her educators have to see eye to eye, I'm sorry you never got those vibes, Maybe you never gave it a chance.  Programs like "Project excel" are wonderful opportunities at the college level if she choses that too. 

 


 


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Fri, 12-06-2013 - 12:13pm

I have heard horror stories about defense cuts and the hoops some have had to jump through just to get their benefits, it's sad. 

 


 


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Fri, 12-06-2013 - 12:19pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>The older my own special ed child becomes the more we are uncovering new opportunities for her, Testing isn't stupid, it's critical to assessing her needs and accomodations, But it's a team effort and myself, DH and her educators have to see eye to eye, I'm sorry you never got those vibes, Maybe you never gave it a chance.  Programs like "Project excel" are wonderful opportunities at the college level if she choses that too. </p>

I am very glad that you are happy with the services and accommodations that your daughter has received and is receiving.

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Fri, 12-06-2013 - 12:22pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">just_another_marla</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;Thardy, not all of my studies are conducted inside a classroom. Have you stopped exploring your own personal thoughts just because you've completed your education?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I understand that women aren't a &lt;em&gt;numerical&lt;/em&gt; minority, but they are a minority group as defined sociologically.  &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Women are not a minority in fact or in the law.   Maybe your course of studies isn't beneficial.  That happens.</p>

The rheotoric gets nauseating.  

 

 

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Fri, 12-06-2013 - 12:22pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<div><em>"Then don't." Poverty is not "an attitude," but compassion is. It would be kind of cool if you developed some, Jamblessed, before you start practicing social work.</em></div><div> </div><div>Adult swim is an inappropriate cable network show, You know social workers that find those cartoons compassionate?  Marla has shared clips that drop the f bomb too, not cute. </div>

Here is a really good lesson in what "social commentary" means.  http://www.lessonplanet.com/article/language-arts/understanding-social-commentary

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Fri, 12-06-2013 - 1:01pm

thardy2001 wrote:
Maybe your course of studies isn't beneficial.

Beneficial for what? 

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Fri, 12-06-2013 - 1:26pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<div><em>"Then don't." Poverty is not "an attitude," but compassion is. It would be kind of cool if you developed some, Jamblessed, before you start practicing social work.</em></div><div> </div><div>Adult swim is an inappropriate cable network show, You know social workers that find those cartoons compassionate?  Marla has shared clips that drop the f bomb too, not cute. </div>

If you act offended over Adult Swim and the f bomb, you really might want to think about developing a lot thicker skin before becoming a social worker because that is pretty tame.

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Fri, 12-06-2013 - 1:33pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">just_another_marla</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;jamblessedthree&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;South Africa is where &lt;strong&gt;true&lt;/strong&gt; poverty exists&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jams, could you explain what "true poverty" is? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Throughout the course of my studies, I've had to reject the idea that poverty is a personal problem because I couldn't reconcile<span style="text-decoration:underline"><strong> the fact that minority groups (women, racial/ethnic groups)</strong></span> suffer from poverty in much higher rates. The questions that I grappled with included asking myself if I thought that racial/ethnic groups were inherently inferior or if I felt that women's poverty was merely a symptom of moral failing. I couldn't accept either; and I'm not sure how one could view the "personal problem" of poverty without putting some stock into those questions. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you could help me out by explaining how you've come to your beliefs, so that I could understand the viewpoint better?&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Did it really take you until your course of studies to learn about the issue of poverty?  And women are not a minority.  Far from it ~ that's kind of the problem.</p>

While not in numbers women are not a minority, but aren't women classified as having minority status as far as the law is concerned?

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