Happy Memorial Day Fluff

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Registered: 03-27-2013
Happy Memorial Day Fluff
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Fri, 05-24-2013 - 11:45am

1. How's the weather going to be for your Memorial Day weekend?

2. What's for dinner?

3. Do you vote for your school budget? Edited to say, the one that the board of education decides and you go to the polls to vote yes or no each year. If not, why not?

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2013
Fri, 05-24-2013 - 1:09pm

I understood your question the second time.  And the answer is still no.  Only the board votes on the budget.

Oh ok. So you have no yearly vote to see if and why your school taxes go up?

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2013
Fri, 05-24-2013 - 1:11pm

3.  Our school board decides our budget and they are the only ones who vote on it.  We don't vote on a budget for our local government either.  Our Municipality has assembly people & they vote on it.  Anyway when we have local elections there are usually special bonds that we vote on if we want bigger projects done, like building new schools or putting a bunch of money into old schools to renovate etc.  I do vote in every election though.  

Wow, I am so surprised that the tax payers don't get any say if their school taxes go up. 

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Registered: 02-24-2010
Fri, 05-24-2013 - 1:12pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">No, that's what we elect school board members to do.  There is lots of opportunity for public input.   And any related tax increases, bond issues, etc are voted on by the public.</span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Sorry, I meant do you vote yes or no on the school budgets that are presented to the public each year. Maybe that is how I should have worked it <img src="/forums/sites/all/libraries/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" border="0" /></span></strong></p>

Apparently Spring, this is one of those things that happens "by you", but is not universal.  If more people post we'll see if anyone else does this, but I have never heard of this.  No budget comes up for vote by the public.   Maybe they do that by you since all the taxpayers are so incensed over the local high taxes.  Do they ever pass it?  Because "by me" there are plenty of people who vote no on everything.  

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
― Markus ZusakThe Book Thief

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2013
Fri, 05-24-2013 - 1:13pm

Apparently Spring, this is one of those things that happens "by you", but is not universal.  If more people post we'll see if anyone else does this, but I have never heard of this.  No budget comes up for vote by the public.   Maybe they do that by you since all the taxpayers are no incensed over the high taxes locally.  Do they ever pass it?  Because "by me" there are plenty of people who vote no on everything.  

Very interesting and something I did not know as I thought they did that every place. Yes, our district always passes. This year it has not and a lot if on the line for the kids. 

iVillage Member
Registered: 02-24-2010
Fri, 05-24-2013 - 1:17pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">3.  Our school board decides our budget and they are the only ones who vote on it.  We don't vote on a budget for our local government either.  Our Municipality has assembly people &amp; they vote on it.  Anyway when we have local elections there are usually special bonds that we vote on if we want bigger projects done, like building new schools or putting a bunch of money into old schools to renovate etc.  I do vote in every election though.  </span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Wow, I am so surprised that the tax payers don't get any say if their school taxes go up. </span></strong></p>

Sure you are surprised, because that is the way you are used to it.  However in my local area, voting on the school budget would have nothing to do with whether our taxes went up.  The school district is given a certain amount of money by the Municipality, state & federal govt.  Then they come up with a budget for within that amount.  They can't come up with a budget that is more than they were given for that year.  So once they find out how much money they are going to get that year, they come up with the budget and the school board has a bunch of meetings (at these bunches of meetings there is plenty of public input) to allocate where funds go, then they have a final budget and they vote on it.  

Having the public vote on a budget sounds pretty messy actually.  If they vote no, then they have to start over, come up with a new one, hold a new election yadda yadda.  Holding elections costs money btw, so that is less money going to actual education.

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
― Markus ZusakThe Book Thief

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Registered: 02-24-2010
Fri, 05-24-2013 - 1:20pm

springfever2013 wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px">Apparently Spring, this is one of those things that happens "by you", but is not universal.  If more people post we'll see if anyone else does this, but I have never heard of this.  No budget comes up for vote by the public.   Maybe they do that by you since all the taxpayers are no incensed over the high taxes locally.  Do they ever pass it?  Because "by me" there are plenty of people who vote no on everything.  </span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size:13px">Very interesting and something I did not know as I thought they did that every place. Yes, our district always passes. This year it has not and a lot if on the line for the kids. </span></strong></p>

It didn't pass this year?  So now they school board has to look at it, cut a bunch of programs and hope that what they cut will make the public happy & try again?  Like I said, that sounds messy and also time consuming.

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
― Markus ZusakThe Book Thief

iVillage Member
Registered: 02-24-2010
Fri, 05-24-2013 - 1:21pm

So Spring, when you say you will probably have chicken cutlets, do you mean Chicken Parmesan?  Is that what you always have when you have chicken?

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
― Markus ZusakThe Book Thief

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2013
Fri, 05-24-2013 - 1:23pm

Sure you are surprised, because that is the way you are used to it.  However in my local area, voting on the school budget would have nothing to do with whether our taxes went up.  The school district is given a certain amount of money by the Municipality, state & federal govt.  Then they come up with a budget for within that amount.  They can't come up with a budget that is more than they were given for that year.  So once they find out how much money they are going to get that year, they come up with the budget and the school board has a bunch of meetings (at these bunches of meetings there is plenty of public input) to allocate where funds go, then they have a final budget and they vote on it.  

Yes, exactly but what happens on years that they don't get enough state aid and have to cut things? The tax payers have no say at all for their kids education?

Having the public vote on a budget sounds pretty messy actually.  If they vote no, then they have to start over, come up with a new one, hold a new election yadda yadda.  Holding elections costs money btw, so that is less money going to actual education.

It happens all the time by me. This has gone on for as long as I remember being a kid. Luckily this is one of the first years it has happened in my district but it happens every year in many others. We have total districts. There were only 6 that were voted down this time so that was not bad but unfortunately, mine was one of them.

The amount of money that people get paid for the elections is all written out, have seen it with my own eyes.  When I went to vote there were only 4 people working the polls. I don't have it in front of me right now but the total is probably about 50 people if even that at almost minimum wage (they are senior citizens who are running the polls). 

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2013
Fri, 05-24-2013 - 1:25pm

It didn't pass this year?  So now they school board has to look at it, cut a bunch of programs and hope that what they cut will make the public happy & try again?  Like I said, that sounds messy and also time consuming.

For the interest of the kids, we will all do anything that is needed. Trying not to cut programs and to go in different directions. 

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2013
Fri, 05-24-2013 - 1:26pm

So Spring, when you say you will probably have chicken cutlets, do you mean Chicken Parmesan?  Is that what you always have when you have chicken?

Not tonight. Probably just breaded (no sauce or cheese).

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