Humpday Headaches ...

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Wed, 07-23-2014 - 11:05am

I have a lingering, but not bad, headache today. I got new glasses yesterday and that may be the cause.  I also may have to take them back to be adjusted or even remade, because my left eye isn't focusing right in them.  But, I'll give it another day or so.   Anyone else have a really hard time adjusting to new glasses? I go through this every time. Ugh.

So, fluff for relief ...

Do you know how to ride a horse? When was the last time you did so?

Do you know how to ski? When was the last time you did so?

Did you ever have some weird or odd one-time job? Or do anything odd to earn money for a summer as a kid?

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Thu, 07-24-2014 - 1:22pm

More kids are also college-bound. I graduated in the early 90s, and the idea that a good number of students would go on to college was new. Some of the kids I went to high school with toiled away at McDonald's because they knew a little job experience would go a long way when they graduated and wanted to get into the local factories. I don't think this is a sound strategy anymore.

Plus, the cost of transportation has made a lot of teen jobs ridiculously cost-prohibitive, at least in my area it is. Liability on an old clunker for an 18 year old can run $150 monthly in my state. Throw $4/gallon of gas on top, and these kids are barely netting enough to make work worth their time unless they have outside transportation resources. 

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Thu, 07-24-2014 - 1:22pm

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">I think your points are valid, possible factors.  Also, there were no 529 college savings or Coverdell ESA plans prior to 1997.  I think some families had enough money to pay for their child's college, but I don't think "saving" for college was prevalent. Doing so in a tax-defferred or specified educational vehicle most definitely wasn't the norm, if possible at all.  With the advent of those plans, college savings became much easier (and interest-bearing), so I think less kids save for college themselves or have to work during college.</span></p><p style="text-align:left"><strong><span style="font-size:x-small"><span>You must be speaking for yourself (or should I say your ex) as I know PLENTY of people who have not and can not save for college and the kids are either helping or are paying now or will pay later for college. Sounds like you don't have a wide variety of experience with different types of situations when it comes to paying for college. </span></span></strong></p>

Well, considering I've already paid two semesters of tuition, I have loads more experience than you do.

But, it is FACT that saving for college has become easier due to the advent of college savings plans.  I said nothing about the financial ability of people saving - just that it got easier to do so in terms of the vehicles used.

Why would I speak for my ex?   That's just silly.

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Thu, 07-24-2014 - 1:23pm

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<p><span style="font-size:13px; text-align:left">I think your points are valid, possible factors.  Also, there were no 529 college savings or Coverdell ESA plans prior to 1997.  I think some families had enough money to pay for their child's college, but I don't think "saving" for college was prevalent. Doing so in a tax-defferred or specified educational vehicle most definitely wasn't the norm, if possible at all.  With the advent of those plans, college savings became much easier (and interest-bearing), so I think less kids save for college themselves or have to work during college.</span></p><p style="text-align:left"><strong><span style="font-size:x-small"><span>You must be speaking for yourself (or should I say your ex) as I know PLENTY of people who have not and can not save for college and the kids are either helping or are paying now or will pay later for college. Sounds like you don't have a wide variety of experience with different types of situations when it comes to paying for college. </span></span></strong></p>

I would say that a great majority of please I know have placed a high emphasis on saving for college, even if that account is small. I have a number of friends (from a wide variety of experienes) with kids leaving for college and I would say the over whelming majority of them have some type of college saving plan in place.

Plus, she did say "some" families not all families.

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Thu, 07-24-2014 - 1:25pm

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<p>My dd is in sports and she can easily work 3 hours a day after that if she would like. She actually applied to the library where she can take the bus from sports to and work 6-9. </p>

No one said kids *couldn't* work due to sports. 

My kid (and her BF too!) works 12-25 hours a week and has for two years and will continue to do so in college.  This while being involved in multiple activities, keeping her grades up and maintaining a social life.   I didn't ever say it couldn't be done - I just think it's harder to do now.

NOBODY? Where are you when we need you?

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Thu, 07-24-2014 - 1:27pm

I do to, (play sports and work) but it's usually the kids who have to work not need to work...ime.  My older son has a job this summer, but won't continue it once school starts, I don't want my kids working during the school year, way too many other things going on for both of them.  They do volunteer a certain number of hours each semester and in the summer though.

So you will supply everything he needs and wants for 4 years during the school year?

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Thu, 07-24-2014 - 1:27pm

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<p>My dd is in sports and she can easily work 3 hours a day after that if she would like. She actually applied to the library where she can take the bus from sports to and work 6-9. </p>

I think it depends on the sport, school and the level of playing, neither of my kids would easily make a 6pm start time at work.  Games routinely start at 4.30-7pm depending on the sport and practice runs until 5.30-6pm on a regular basis.  

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Thu, 07-24-2014 - 1:28pm

blackandwhitemolly wrote:
<p>My dd is in sports and she can easily work 3 hours a day after that if she would like. She actually applied to the library where she can take the bus from sports to and work 6-9. </p>

So, if she's in school until 4ish, sports after that, and works from 6-9, when does she study? (times are estimates - not intended to be a quote from you)

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Thu, 07-24-2014 - 1:30pm

College savings isn't what the theory that kids work less today is tied too. If I can find the link I will post it...

 


 


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Thu, 07-24-2014 - 1:31pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>College savings isn't what the theory that kids work less today is tied too. If I can find the link I will post it...</p>

It's one of the things MY theory is tied to ...

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Thu, 07-24-2014 - 1:32pm

Well, considering I've already paid two semesters of tuition, I have loads more experience than you do.

You have experience paying. It doesn't sound like you have much experience in what others do.

But, it is FACT that saving for college has become easier due to the advent of college savings plans.

Yes it has but many people don't have the means to save no matter what college savings plans are out there to utilize.

I said nothing about the financial ability of people saving - just that it got easier to do so in terms of the vehicles used.

Why would I speak for my ex?   That's just silly.

Didn't he save for the majority of their college?

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