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Sat, 10-19-2013 - 4:49pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYs8toIE9fY

As an advocate and student studying health + human services this scenario is sad and I'm glad child welfare is involved.  WDYT?  Is there a break down of the system, according to her, here or is this just somebody placing the blame on others? 

 

 

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:14am
The judge asked her in court whether she would like to say thank you to the people who had stepped up to give her the free housing and food and furniture and clothing, and her response was, "No comment, Your Honor."
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:14am

There are various relatives; her brothers and sisters, that have stepped in to help, kept some of the kids temporarily, etc. She seems to be completely resistant to help and even refused to express any gratitude to the people who stepped up and got her a six bedroom house, rent free. This is not how people in their right minds behave.

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:19am
I am not advocating "slapping a label" in anyone. But just like if you exhibit signs of cancer or heart disease you get a medical exam and find out what you have and if it can be treated so you can get better, if you exhibit signs of mental illness you need to get examined and evaluated to see if you can treatment and get better. There should be no more stigma to mental illness than there is to a physical one.
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:25am

Does treatment help mental illness go away? Tell that to a grown person that has done so much harm first... No, it's not like a disease like cancer or heart disease.

BTW, was she represented by a lawyer at court?  If she was then she was coached what to say too. 

 

 

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:30am
Jamblessed, it is attitudes such as your that help keep stigmas attached to mental illnesses. Some mental illness can be cured, others can be treated to keep the symptoms at bay and allow the person who had the disease to function normally more of the time. She was represented by a lawyer, who admitted to the judge that he was unable to get her to follow any advice or suggestions. This was right before she was jailed for contempt of court for refusing to answer questions the judge was asking her. A woman who would rather go to jail and keep her kids in foster care is either fighting for some higher cause, or not thinking straight.
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:34am
I'm not diagnosing mental illness, I'm suggesting it as a possibility/probability and saying that if I were the judge here, I'd order an evaluation. This conclusion seems to be the one that Thardy's arrived at as well.
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:36am

No, I won't diagnose mental illness from the seat of my couch like you do.  And unless you're trained and degreed in the field of psychiatry/psychology should you be doing it either.   You are the one feeding the stigma. 

 

 

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:36am

I've been watching that case since 2010. It's clear that woman is showing signs of being mentally ill and in need of a lot of support. She loves her kids but obviously can't provide for them, wants state aid but not the oversight and intrusion that comes with state aid. Last update I saw, she had been arrested for battery on a police officer along with three of her kids, and she's likely pregnant with #16. She's probably got some diagnosable emotional/mental issue, but is treatment resistant. It's a very sad case.

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:46am
Throwing hands up in the air, Ok let's pretend there's some mental illness underneath her actions and behaviors. Now what? Can you make her go into treatment? What about those poor kids? You can't make her do anything, Those kids can be helped however, and the hope is to stop repeatable behaviors.

 

 

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:52am
"Does treatment help mental illness go away? Tell that to a grown person that has done so much harm first... No, it's not like a disease like cancer or heart disease." -------------- Jams, wow! You say you are enrolled in college studying health and human services, surely you must know better than the above statement? Mental illness does not usually "go away" that is true. It is a chronic disease like migraines or high blood pressure or ... wait for it, cancer that has to be managed and kept under control, usually for your lifetime. It is most definitely a regular disease. Ask your professors.

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