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Sat, 10-19-2013 - 4:49pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYs8toIE9fY

As an advocate and student studying health + human services this scenario is sad and I'm glad child welfare is involved.  WDYT?  Is there a break down of the system, according to her, here or is this just somebody placing the blame on others? 

 

 

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:54am
"Throwing hands up in the air, Ok let's pretend there's some mental illness underneath her actions and behaviors. Now what? Can you make her go into treatment? What about those poor kids?" ---------- Uhm, yes, of course you can make it a condition of her getting the kids back that she gets treatment and stays in treatment. I am sure that is also done for parents abusing alcohol or drugs, they have to stay clean and stay in AA or whatever to keep their kids.
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 9:54am
Yes, you can order her into treatment as a condition of keeping the kids. Along with showing she has the help necessary to make sure that the kids have a roof over their heads, clothing, food, are getting an education, and have health care, she needs to show that she's emotionally stable enough to provide THEM the stability they need. If she has a mental illness, she needs to show she's working on getting that under control. If she refuses or resists treatment, and the kids suffer because of it, they need to be out-placed, either with more stable relatives, or taken into state custody. It is a very sad case.
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:00am
"it is attitudes such as your that help keep stigmas attached to mental illnesses" -------- Actually such attitudes are quite heart-breaking for those of us who have people dear to us who are mentally ill. If people think it is not an illness, then obviously they must think it is either a moral failing or some other failing of the affected person. That is a judgment that is both harsh and terribly ignorant.
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:00am

bordwithyou wrote:
Yes, you can order her into treatment as a condition of keeping the kids. Along with showing she has the help necessary to make sure that the kids have a roof over their heads, clothing, food, are getting an education, and have health care, she needs to show that she's emotionally stable enough to provide THEM the stability they need. If she has a mental illness, she needs to show she's working on getting that under control. If she refuses or resists treatment, and the kids suffer because of it, they need to be out-placed, either with more stable relatives, or taken into state custody. It is a very sad case.

I don't disagree with any care or outreach the kids are getting at all. 

 


 


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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:02am

Mental illness is much like many chronic illnesses like diabetes or high blood pressure,  rarely cured but kept under control by treatment. 

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:05am
It is much easier to condemn this person for being bad, evil, disgusting, whatever, than it is to see her as a human being in all her complexities. She can't be doing everything wrong. Those who know the family say that the kids are always clean, even if they gave to wear the same clothes several days in a row, they are generally well-behaved, and generally are doing well in school. That can't all be happening by accident!
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:12am

mops, it's no surprise your approach to this is far opposite than the way I see it.  How schooled are you again?  I'm still learning myself.  Your approach to a lot of issues is far removed than the way I see it, Lately taking to debate even the pink causes which really insults the foundation of which others support.  We've discussed differences in how we react to family issues too, You know if cutting off complete ties from ones family is what's healthy for you who am I to argue that?  It certainly isn't advice I think all should take however. 

Ignorance about mental illness is your perception and own hardened views. 

 

 

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:17am

bordwithyou wrote:
It is much easier to condemn this person for being bad, evil, disgusting, whatever, than it is to see her as a human being in all her complexities. She can't be doing everything wrong. Those who know the family say that the kids are always clean, even if they gave to wear the same clothes several days in a row, they are generally well-behaved, and generally are doing well in school. That can't all be happening by accident!

Who is condemning who?  You are all over hte place about this it seems, First claiming that she is mentally incompetent to now saying she is a caring mom which sounds quite normal to me.  I think there is something out of place iwth this clip, the condemnation seems to be on the system - according to her - of which I don't agree.  If she can't face up to her own responsibilty here then nobody can make her.  She's younger than me and I am an optimist, I think there is hope for even her. 

 

 

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:21am

There is nothing inconsistent about being both a caring mother and mentally ill.

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:24am

Behaviors that work against eachother is pretty symptomatic of mental illness, That is according to a professor whose PhD is in the science of mental health.

 

 

 

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