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Sat, 10-19-2013 - 4:49pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYs8toIE9fY

As an advocate and student studying health + human services this scenario is sad and I'm glad child welfare is involved.  WDYT?  Is there a break down of the system, according to her, here or is this just somebody placing the blame on others? 

 


 


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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:46am
"Foundations, many of them, are formed b/c of personal experiences with them. And your attempt AGAIN to wish to debate it is sad to me. Yes, it is at the expense of others going through the exact same thing you are." --------- You brought up the pink stuff again, not I. We were talking about mental illness. From what you have written, it is not possible for me to deduce what your objection is.
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:49am
Empty, yes exactly, that is one of the key issues in all this. Another is how stage 4 women are shunted aside and overlooked because they don't fit the whole "Rah-rah, get a mammo and all will be fine" narrative. But apparently we are insulting and upsetting Jams by bringing up these issues, so I guess we should refrain.
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:50am
Jams, you said: "Does treatment help mental illness go away? Tell that to a grown person that has done so much harm first... No, it's not like a disease like cancer or heart disease." --------- It is very much a disease like many other chronic disease - diabetes, migraines, cancer etc.
 
How is this me not calling mental illness a disease?  Really, do stop distorting what gets said mops.  Mental illness wouldn't be categorized an illness if it weren't for the conditoons associated with it but to say it IS LIKE another illness I will not.  Heck, I won't even compare diabetes to other illnesses, You take somebody with diabetes to an endocrin specialist not oncologist.  Perhaps you have proven studies that compare mental illness to other illnesses.  TIA. 

 


 


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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:50am

bordwithyou wrote:
I am not advocating "slapping a label" in anyone. But just like if you exhibit signs of cancer or heart disease you get a medical exam and find out what you have and if it can be treated so you can get better, if you exhibit signs of mental illness you need to get examined and evaluated to see if you can treatment and get better. There should be no more stigma to mental illness than there is to a physical one.

Yes, yes, and yes. 

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:51am

Empty, Jams probably won't like this T, but my doc thought it was hilarious. I wore it to a breast cancer event he had organized.

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:52am

So to you, no stage 4 people with cancer support foundations like the pink cause?  Alrighty then, More power to your own devices. 

 


 


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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:52am
Jams, ok, so you do think it is an illness, but not like other illnesses. In what way does mental illness differ from other chronic diseases like those mentioned, in your opinion that is?
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:53am

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Does treatment help mental illness go away? Tell that to a grown person that has done so much harm first... No, it's not like a disease like cancer or heart disease.</p><p>BTW, was she represented by a lawyer at court?  If she was then she was coached what to say too. </p>

treatment can mitigate the effects of mental illness. Proper diagnosis, medication (if warrented), and counseling can greatly aid one in living a more "normal" life. 

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:53am
"So to you, no stage 4 people with cancer support foundations like the pink cause?" ------ I said nothing of the sort. besides, I am not sure what you actually mean by "pink cause."
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Sun, 10-20-2013 - 10:57am

bordwithyou wrote:
<p>There is nothing inconsistent about being both a caring mother and mentally ill.</p>

exactl.  

"I don’t mind a banshee, that’s fine. 2 banshees? I HATE you. I actually wish bad things upon you." -- Day[9] Daily #459 P1

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