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Sat, 10-19-2013 - 4:49pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYs8toIE9fY

As an advocate and student studying health + human services this scenario is sad and I'm glad child welfare is involved.  WDYT?  Is there a break down of the system, according to her, here or is this just somebody placing the blame on others? 

 


 


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Mon, 10-21-2013 - 8:33pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">QueenbeeNotaWannabee</em> wrote:</div>  Except that it isn't, and you clearly don't. Your information is erroneous as usual. If you were as well versed in Greek life as you pretend to be, you would know that it is typically chapter/area alums who assist with recruitment. If your chapter received help from your national organization during the recruitment process, that says a lot about the chapter you were in. You know, the fact that you needed help from your national organization to recruit your peers...that tells me a lot. Perhaps that experience is why you are so bitter. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I do not attend sorority events like parties. I haven't since I graduated. I attend the occasional meeting and communicated regularly with my officers...as recommended by my national group's best practices for advisors. But the idea that I go to their social events is, as usual, totally wrong...&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Okay, if you want to say you're the only one who's ever been in a sorority here, go for it.  You can have the title which simply affirms  what we've all tried to point out.  Insinuating oneself into a friendship where none exists.  Young sorority girls simply want to be with girls and guys their own ages.  I know from firsthand experience.  </p>

Your so-called firsthand experience is what? Two or three decades old? <shrug> Clearly YMMV.

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Mon, 10-21-2013 - 8:32pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">chestnuthooligan</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;thardy2001&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class="quote-author"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;em class="placeholder"&amp;gt;QueenbeeNotaWannabee&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt; wrote:&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;  Except that it isn't, and you clearly don't. Your information is erroneous as usual. If you were as well versed in Greek life as you pretend to be, you would know that it is typically chapter/area alums who assist with recruitment. If your chapter received help from your national organization during the recruitment process, that says a lot about the chapter you were in. You know, the fact that you needed help from your national organization to recruit your peers...that tells me a lot. Perhaps that experience is why you are so bitter. &amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;p&amp;amp;gt;I do not attend sorority events like parties. I haven't since I graduated. I attend the occasional meeting and communicated regularly with my officers...as recommended by my national group's best practices for advisors. But the idea that I go to their social events is, as usual, totally wrong...&amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Okay, if you want to say you're the only one who's ever been in a sorority here, go for it.  You can have the title which simply affirms  what we've all tried to point out.  Insinuating oneself into a friendship where none exists.  &lt;strong&gt;Young sorority girls simply want to be with girls and guys their own ages.  I know from firsthand experience.&lt;/strong&gt;  &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Actually, you would be wrong. As a REALLY old woman, I often connect with college age women who are interested in the tech field. It's not a friendship, it is a mentoring and networking  relationship, just like Queen's. These ambitious young women want to get ahead in tech and I can help them get there. The one's who don't seek out help through many channels, often remain unemployed or under employed.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>How is anything I said incorrect?  </p>

Just about everything you've written about Queen is "incorrect": Queen is in a leadership role in her sorority and mentor to its members, she never claimed friendship with college-aged women.

I never had much use for the greek life back in the day, but I am using it as a channel to reach college women in tech right now. It is a very useful channel.

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Mon, 10-21-2013 - 8:25pm

savcal2011 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">thardy2001</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;savcal2011&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class="quote-author"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;em class="placeholder"&amp;gt;thardy2001&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt; wrote:&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;Marla, this has been discussed ad nauseum on this board before.  Wannabe feels she should force herself into meetings and parties/socials that the sorority hosts.  I've explained that she is very mistaken.  Because I belonged to a sorority, lived in the house on campus.  Other than college grads from National coming to help out during rush, that's it.  There should no longer be college grads from the sorority intruding on weekly meetings, parties, charity events.  Sorry, you don't know about sororities.  I do.  That's always how it works.&amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;I don't have a lot of experience with greek life ... But I jsut want to interject an anecdote.  The husband of a friend of mine died quite unexpectedly recently at the age of 47.  He was a lifetime, involved member of Kappa Kappa Psi and was involved with the national organization at the time of his death. He was also an honorary member of Tau Beta Sigma and was involved with that sorority at the time of his death as well.   About 1/3 of the packed house at his funeral service were college students.   &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;KKP and TBS certainly didn't feel he was "intruding" on their lives and events. &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Rest in peace, Dale.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yes, the National offices are very different.  Often they offer paying jobs.  What Wannabe has forced herself into is not National.  It's very different.  Heck, I've never even heard of what she's doing. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cute that your friend was an honorary member of a sorority.  But really, he was &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; involved with the sorority unless it was a co-ed fraternity.  Sororities ~ "back in the day" and now ~ are run and organized by women only.  According to my neices, anything else is anathema, lol!  &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Sorry, but I know more about my friend's life than you do. He WAS involved in the sorority. On both a national and chapter level.  And his involvement in the fraternity was not only at the national level but at the chapter level too.</p>

That's not what you said.  See your words above ~ you said he was only involved at the National level of the fraternity at the time of his death.  That he was only an honorary member of a sorority.  Don't embarrass yourself ~ you admit you "don't have a lot of experience with greek life."  Leave it at that, and don't disrespect the honor of a dead man to try to win some argument you may have with me.  So sad.

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Mon, 10-21-2013 - 8:19pm

chestnuthooligan wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">thardy2001</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;QueenbeeNotaWannabee&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;  Except that it isn't, and you clearly don't. Your information is erroneous as usual. If you were as well versed in Greek life as you pretend to be, you would know that it is typically chapter/area alums who assist with recruitment. If your chapter received help from your national organization during the recruitment process, that says a lot about the chapter you were in. You know, the fact that you needed help from your national organization to recruit your peers...that tells me a lot. Perhaps that experience is why you are so bitter. &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;I do not attend sorority events like parties. I haven't since I graduated. I attend the occasional meeting and communicated regularly with my officers...as recommended by my national group's best practices for advisors. But the idea that I go to their social events is, as usual, totally wrong...&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Okay, if you want to say you're the only one who's ever been in a sorority here, go for it.  You can have the title which simply affirms  what we've all tried to point out.  Insinuating oneself into a friendship where none exists.  <strong>Young sorority girls simply want to be with girls and guys their own ages.  I know from firsthand experience.</strong>  &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Actually, you would be wrong. As a REALLY old woman, I often connect with college age women who are interested in the tech field. It's not a friendship, it is a mentoring and networking  relationship, just like Queen's. These ambitious young women want to get ahead in tech and I can help them get there. The one's who don't seek out help through many channels, often remain unemployed or under employed.</p>

How is anything I said incorrect? 

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Mon, 10-21-2013 - 8:15pm

bordwithyou wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">thardy2001</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;bordwithyou&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;No one likes the pushy, bossy person you are making up in your head, Morty. Everyone likes Queen, though (Well, you three don't, but you don't appear to like anybody except each other ). Queen is a riot. Cynical and snarky way beyond her years. A genius, in fact.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm pretty sure it's about a decade.  But what is the age difference between you and Queen?&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>I don't even know.  I assume it's closer to a decade and a half than a decade, but I've never asked her her age.</p>

Interesting.  I'm not surprised.  And it supports the earlier discussion about obtruding onto sorority innocents.  Hmmm.

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Mon, 10-21-2013 - 8:14pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">savcal2011</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;thardy2001&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;Marla, this has been discussed ad nauseum on this board before.  Wannabe feels she should force herself into meetings and parties/socials that the sorority hosts.  I've explained that she is very mistaken.  Because I belonged to a sorority, lived in the house on campus.  Other than college grads from National coming to help out during rush, that's it.  There should no longer be college grads from the sorority intruding on weekly meetings, parties, charity events.  Sorry, you don't know about sororities.  I do.  That's always how it works.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't have a lot of experience with greek life ... But I jsut want to interject an anecdote.  The husband of a friend of mine died quite unexpectedly recently at the age of 47.  He was a lifetime, involved member of Kappa Kappa Psi and was involved with the national organization at the time of his death. He was also an honorary member of Tau Beta Sigma and was involved with that sorority at the time of his death as well.   About 1/3 of the packed house at his funeral service were college students.   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;KKP and TBS certainly didn't feel he was "intruding" on their lives and events. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rest in peace, Dale.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Yes, the National offices are very different.  Often they offer paying jobs.  What Wannabe has forced herself into is not National.  It's very different.  Heck, I've never even heard of what she's doing. </p><p>Cute that your friend was an honorary member of a sorority.  But really, he was <span style="text-decoration:underline">not</span> involved with the sorority unless it was a co-ed fraternity.  Sororities ~ "back in the day" and now ~ are run and organized by women only.  According to my neices, anything else is anathema, lol!  </p>

Sorry, but I know more about my friend's life than you do. He WAS involved in the sorority. On both a national and chapter level.  And his involvement in the fraternity was not only at the national level but at the chapter level too.

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Mon, 10-21-2013 - 8:07pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>My dad went to West Point for his undergrad, He went to a private catholic college for his masters, He was in a fraternity there. I should feel the love? </p><p> </p>

Maybe you can desperately force your way into their regular meetings at West Point and his alma mater and have a whole new set of friends. Wink   Jamblessed, I'm truly impressed.  West Point! 

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Mon, 10-21-2013 - 8:05pm

thardy2001 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">QueenbeeNotaWannabee</em> wrote:</div>  Except that it isn't, and you clearly don't. Your information is erroneous as usual. If you were as well versed in Greek life as you pretend to be, you would know that it is typically chapter/area alums who assist with recruitment. If your chapter received help from your national organization during the recruitment process, that says a lot about the chapter you were in. You know, the fact that you needed help from your national organization to recruit your peers...that tells me a lot. Perhaps that experience is why you are so bitter. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I do not attend sorority events like parties. I haven't since I graduated. I attend the occasional meeting and communicated regularly with my officers...as recommended by my national group's best practices for advisors. But the idea that I go to their social events is, as usual, totally wrong...&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Okay, if you want to say you're the only one who's ever been in a sorority here, go for it.  You can have the title which simply affirms  what we've all tried to point out.  Insinuating oneself into a friendship where none exists.  Young sorority girls simply want to be with girls and guys their own ages.  I know from firsthand experience.  </p>

Actually, you would be wrong. As a REALLY old woman, I often connect with college age women who are interested in the tech field. It's not a friendship, it is a mentoring and networking  relationship, just like Queen's. These ambitious young women want to get ahead in tech and I can help them get there. The one's who don't seek out help through many channels, often remain unemployed or under employed.

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Mon, 10-21-2013 - 8:04pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
  What haven't I explained mops..  Mental health most certainly is controversial, There are MANY schools of thought on the subject..  You want to classify mental illness as just like cancer?  Really?  Tell me how that is......</p>

You're talking to someone who admonished me of all people that migraines are a....disease.  'Nuf said, Jamblessed.  There are just some people who can't be reached.

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Mon, 10-21-2013 - 8:02pm

savcal2011 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">thardy2001</em> wrote:</div>Marla, this has been discussed ad nauseum on this board before.  Wannabe feels she should force herself into meetings and parties/socials that the sorority hosts.  I've explained that she is very mistaken.  Because I belonged to a sorority, lived in the house on campus.  Other than college grads from National coming to help out during rush, that's it.  There should no longer be college grads from the sorority intruding on weekly meetings, parties, charity events.  Sorry, you don't know about sororities.  I do.  That's always how it works.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>I don't have a lot of experience with greek life ... But I jsut want to interject an anecdote.  The husband of a friend of mine died quite unexpectedly recently at the age of 47.  He was a lifetime, involved member of Kappa Kappa Psi and was involved with the national organization at the time of his death. He was also an honorary member of Tau Beta Sigma and was involved with that sorority at the time of his death as well.   About 1/3 of the packed house at his funeral service were college students.   </p><p>KKP and TBS certainly didn't feel he was "intruding" on their lives and events. </p><p>Rest in peace, Dale.</p>

Yes, the National offices are very different.  Often they offer paying jobs.  What Wannabe has forced herself into is not National.  It's very different.  Heck, I've never even heard of what she's doing. 

Cute that your friend was an honorary member of a sorority.  But really, he was not involved with the sorority unless it was a co-ed fraternity.  Sororities ~ "back in the day" and now ~ are run and organized by women only.  According to my neices, anything else is anathema, lol! 

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