Low Carb Diets

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Low Carb Diets
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Mon, 04-26-2004 - 9:07am
I was wondering... have any of you tried any of these, or have any input, advice, tips on these at all?

I'm thinking of trying Atkins once again - I did this in the past and it worked out extremely well for me. The problem that I had was, there was little selection at the time. Now it seems everywhere I turn there is low-carb everything everywhere! I have been wondering though, are the products in the store worth it? Or are there good recipes for things out there... like crackers, bread? Is it true that if you find whole-wheat bread you can subtract the fiber content from the carbs? And the supplements - are these really necessary? (The chromium picolinate, etc. I already take a multi-vitamin) ... anyone know what the difference between the Atkins and the South Beach Diet??

Anyhow, any input would be appreciated!

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In reply to: jennamumm
Mon, 04-26-2004 - 11:03am
I'll tell ya what I think. I think you need to watch all the "Low Carb" stuff that's out on the market now. Remember when Fat-free was all the craze? Everything was Fat Free and people were eating to their little hearts' content. Only, they had replaced the fat with sugar and starches which backfired. Now where into the Low Carb thing. What are they replacing the carbs with???

The only true way to loose weight is to cut calories and increase activity. How you cut calories is where these "diets" come in. If you are eating lean meats and vegetables (what Atkins recommends after induction) you are cutting calories. I think eating "natural" food is the best. Use the marketed low carb stuff to augment your diet, to reward yourself, to cut corners. But don't make it the staple of your diet. Try to find naturally low carb stuff.

And yes, you can subtract fiber from total carbs to get net carbs.

I don't know if I answered your questions, but just want to throw in my 2 cents.

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In reply to: jennamumm
Mon, 04-26-2004 - 11:14am
IMO low carb diets work best when you eat natural unprocessed foods. That is meat, poultry, cheese, eggs, veggies, fruits, nuts, and oils. Be careful about simply switching the way you eat now for a similar version of your current eating plan, full of processed low carb products. If you want to lose weight you need to CHANGE the way you eat, not simply replace high carb junk food with low carb junk food.

Some of the products you see in the stores are quite good and others are awful. Some of the products in the stores are totally processed garbage and others are made from good wholesome ingredients. You really need to read the labels and avoid hydrogenated oils and sugar (yes you will find it in some low carb products). Now that I am maintaining I am using some low carb products. Which are you interested in?

Yes you can deduct the fiber from the number of carbs you eat. Not just in bread, but in ANY foods (like veggies). I highly suggest that you read Dr. Atkins book and the South Beach Diet book. The SBD book has great recipes in it.

The biggest difference between SBD and Atkins is in the types of carbs and fats you eat. The SBD focuses on removing the high glycemic index carbs and eating foods with a lower glycemic index. Dr. Agatston also focuses on limiting saturated fat in your diet. He does not however, focus on lowering the TOTAL fat intake in your diet. The book is very easy to read and I suggest you read BOTH books before decidind which plan to follow. The first 2 weeks on both are similar.

Atkins focuses on eating less carbs period without regard to the glycemic index, although Atkis maintenance focuses on the glycemic index. You do not have to eat red meat every night to stay on Atkins. I eat lots of chicken and fish.

I take a reglar multi vitamin. I don't know if supplements help or not but I am leery of taking lots of substances without really knowing much about them.

Post any other questions you may have. I am happy to answer you.

Jenna

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In reply to: jennamumm
Mon, 04-26-2004 - 11:27am
I agree 100% with you. When I look at what I used to eat when I went out for breakfast (2 eggs, toast, bacon, homefries) with what I eat now (3 eggs, bacon, tomato slices) you can see that toast and homefries have been replaced with 1 egg and tomato slices. Clearly the calories in the toast and homefries are higher than the calories in one egg and a few slices of tomatoes. PLUS I am not hungry so quickly because it takes more time to digest the eggs than the starches. The combination of eating less and taking more time to digest your food so you feel full longer is a big part of why low carb diets are successful.

People need to be very careful not to simply replace high carb junk food with low carb junk food. It is true that high carb food makes you hungrier faster, but you still need to fill up on high quality low carb foods. I do not beleive most of the low carb processed foods are high quality.

Jenna

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In reply to: jennamumm
Mon, 04-26-2004 - 11:47am
I'm not a huge advocate of either, but I think of the two, South beach is MUCH healthier because it doesnt restrict fruits and veggies. And like the other posters said, you are much better off eating *natural* foods than all the processed low carb junk. A nice piece of 100 percent whole wheat bread is MUCH healthier than some *carb solution* bread, ya know?

have you thought about just counting calories and trying to stay away from white flour/sugar? Rather than putting yourself on a stringent *diet*, maybe some smaller modifications would work.

How much are you trying to lose? And what are you doing for exercise?

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In reply to: jennamumm
Mon, 04-26-2004 - 12:15pm
>>If you want to lose weight you need to CHANGE the way you eat, not simply replace high carb junk food with low carb junk food. <<

I totally agree with both you and Mappers on this one. I am not looking to really buying most or many of these products, but I think it will help me to get through those, temporary moments of weakness, that, once-a-month-just-gotta-have one little, itty bitty taste of chocolate, before I hurt somebody kinda thing.

One thing I would be interested in are tortillas? We have a taco night once a week in our house. It's like our family's favorite meal. I can and will eat all the stuff without the shell... but if there were something I could use to substitute once I've been through induction, it would just help a lot I think, with my will power.

I've done well on Atkins in the past, but I'm one of those who had great success for 6 months straight, and blew it all for a chocolate brownie and a Ritz cracker, and I haven't been back on it since. So really, with the products what I am hoping for is having a few things available would help me to continue with the diet. I actually like low-carb eating over carb eating, 29 days of every month ;)

Thanks so much for the responses, if I have any more questions, I'll be sure to post!

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In reply to: jennamumm
Mon, 04-26-2004 - 12:27pm
LaTortilla Factory tortillas are great. They are also made with mostly good quality natural ingredients. I can get them around here at the health food store. I haven't tried the other brands. You can expect to pay around $3 for a package of 10 tortillas.

I DO eat some low carb processed foods. Just not ALOT of them. Pure D'lite chocolate is good. As is Russell Stover chocolate. Just be careful not to eat alot of the food sweetened with sugar alchols as they can cause gastrointestinal distress when consumed in large quantities.

I think your plan to use low carb processed treats to get through difficult periods is a good plan. I usually take a little treat with me to my Bunco games or other social situations where others are having desserts.

Jenna

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In reply to: jennamumm
Mon, 04-26-2004 - 12:36pm
I do 30 mins of cardio (stationary bike) each morning and alternate a regimen with excersize bands. Now that the weather isn't frozen, I am also walking an average of an hour, half of that is fast paced on my own, and half is with the family, slow, with the kids and puppy.

I have 20 pounds left to lose, but more importantly, I'd just like to have a way to keep it off.

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In reply to: jennamumm
Mon, 04-26-2004 - 1:05pm

Some of that low carb stuff in the store just fascinates me.

 

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In reply to: jennamumm
Mon, 04-26-2004 - 1:08pm
Well, quite honestly, you cant keep it off with a diet. You can only keep it off by making a permanent lifestyle change. And the thing is, low carb diets are very hard to stick with over the long term (as in years).

You know what works well for me? Eat 6 small meals a day, dont eat after 6p, and dont eat fast food or drink soda (even diet). People who lose weight/keep weight gain to a minimum seem to have more long term success with small portions of *everything* rather than trying to *diet*. Diets dont work. Thats why our country is in such a crisis with obesity-its becoming the number one health problem in America and the number one killer.

dj

Dj

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In reply to: jennamumm
Mon, 04-26-2004 - 1:16pm

LOL!

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