Marissa Mayer Bans WAH

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Marissa Mayer Bans WAH
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Sun, 02-24-2013 - 1:08pm

The youngest female Fortune 500 CEO ~ Yahoo's Marissa Mayer ~ banned WAH for all employees, including full-time customer service reps, those who WAH just 1 or 2 days/week, even those hired on the condition they WAH.

<<"Speed and quality are often sacrificed when we work from home," says the memo from HR director Jackie Rees..."We need to be one Yahoo!, and that starts with physically being together.>>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-belkin/marissa-mayer-work-from-home-yahoo-rule_b_2750256.html

Apparently the fact that all of the "tools" can be at home, accessing the main offices remotely, is not enough.

Wouldn't we expect a new mom especially to "champion" combining work and family?  Some WAH employees say they get more done at home, due to a shorter "commute", fewer interuptions at the watercooler and cubicle.  For those who WAH part-time or f-t, are you as/more productive at home as in an office?  Will this backfire as the top talent can WAH for Yahoo and other companies? 

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Thu, 02-28-2013 - 7:20pm

chestnuthooligan wrote:
<p>quote=jamblessedthree]&lt;p&gt;Uhm, This thread has produced a division b/w women who think we can have it all and those who don't believe there is such a thing, It's the NOW jrs and Gloria Steinham would be proud. &lt;/p&gt;
</p><p>&lt;p&gt;I am thankful for all the feminists who came before to offer me the choices that they never had. I am really old, and I was in the second class that accepted women at my undergrad university. I was offered an athletic scholarship before title 9 thanks to the work of those feminists. I am grateful to all the women who fought so hard for equality that I was of a generation that had access to a first rate college education in a "man's" field.&lt;/p&gt;</p><p>Does anyone ever ask men if the "have it all"? Gender politics, perpetuated by false assumptions that perfect balance is achievable through feminism.</p>[/quote]

I asked about men "having it all" a few pages ago. Lauren addressed it. T & Jam conveniently ignored it. I'm always very curious about that...

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Thu, 02-28-2013 - 7:20pm

bordwithyou wrote:
  I don't think so.  I think it's produced a division between those who have defined what they wanted in life, gone after it, have it or are in the process of getting it, and those who, well, I don't know.  Those with less vision?  Less drive?  I don't know what would compel someone to give up and say they just can't have all that they would really want out of life.  I might not meet all my goals before I die, but at least I'm headed in their direction.</p>

If you don't meet all of your goals, you can't say you have it all.

And how can you claim to have had it all when you had to return to work after you had your babies?  And if you're going with...you had more than enough time at-home when they were children, I'd disagree.  I've SAH more years, and I still want to SAH more with my children.  And if one SAH, she necessarily loses traction in her career.  Again, no one can have it all.

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Thu, 02-28-2013 - 7:22pm

Er - Feminists paved the way so we can have a CHOICE [shouting intended]. Do you really disagree?

My mother had two career choices, nursing or teaching.

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Thu, 02-28-2013 - 7:24pm

thardy2001 wrote:
And how can you claim to have had it all when you had to return to work after you had your babies?  And if you're going with...you had more than enough time at-home when they were children, I'd disagree.  I've SAH more years, and I still want to SAH more with my children.  And if one SAH, she necessarily loses traction in her career.  Again, no one can have it all.</p>

Well, with such a binary and limited view of life, no wonder you disagree.  I don't happen to believe anyone has to have achieved all their goals in life to have it all.  But I'm a huge believer in the value of the journey.  I realize others limit their satisfaction in life with just the end line.  To me, that's a very narrow and sad way to live, but I guess it works for some.

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Thu, 02-28-2013 - 7:27pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
  Ok, Ther's more than one definition of glass ceiling, Thanks.  Next...

bordwithyou wrote:
  Would you like to share yours?  Otherwise, I really don't know what you are trying to get at here.</p>

Perhaps like me, Jamblessedthree knows there's only one definition of a glass ceiling but is, at the same time, entertained by those trying to use the term for their own purposes.

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Thu, 02-28-2013 - 7:28pm

[quote=thardy2001]<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">bordwithyou</em> wrote:</div>  I don't think so.  I think it's produced a division between those who have defined what they wanted in life, gone after it, have it or are in the process of getting it, and those who, well, I don't know.  Those with less vision?  Less drive?  I don't know what would compel someone to give up and say they just can't have all that they would really want out of life.  I might not meet all my goals before I die, but at least I'm headed in their direction.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>If you don't meet all of your goals, you can't say you have it all.</p><p>And how can you claim to have had it all when you had to return to work after you had your babies?  And if you're going with...you had more than enough time at-home when they were children, I'd disagree.  I've SAH more years, and I still want to SAH more with my children.  And if one SAH, she necessarily loses traction in her career.  Again, no one can have it all.</p>[/quote

Her babies are like 20 and 18. Beyond that, has it occured to you that SAH w/babies is not "having it all" for everyone? It was for me. It would be hell for my sister. She's much happier working. 

I'm back in school b/c I'm going to change "careers." I haven't lost any traction in my new career b/c I haven't started it yet. Moreover, my extensive nonprofit experience gathered during my time SAH will serve me beautifully in my new career. Oh, and about salary: my new career choice isn't exactly known for big bucks. Which is fine. B/c I don't want to make enough to significantly increase our tax burden. IOW, I'm not doing it for the money. 

Win/Win 

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Thu, 02-28-2013 - 7:29pm
Well, Thardy, it looks like I didn't have enough time home with my children to satisfy YOU. But I had enough to satisfy ME. And since I am living my life, and you are living yours, that's just fine and dandy.
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Thu, 02-28-2013 - 7:30pm

puss_boo_kay wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">thardy2001</em> wrote:</div>And how can you claim to have had it all when you had to return to work after you had your babies?  And if you're going with...you had more than enough time at-home when they were children, I'd disagree.  I've SAH more years, and I still want to SAH more with my children.  And if one SAH, she necessarily loses traction in her career.  Again, no one can have it all.&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>Well, with such a binary and limited view of life, no wonder you disagree.  I don't happen to believe anyone has to have achieved all their goals in life to have it all.  But I'm a huge believer in the value of the journey.  I realize others limit their satisfaction in life with just the end line.  To me, that's a very narrow and sad way to live, but I guess it works for some.</p>

I never said one has to achieve all their goals nor enjoy their journey.  Lois did.  So you are feeling sad for Lois.  Not me.  And to clarify, I don't feel sad for Lois. She has a great life.

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Thu, 02-28-2013 - 7:32pm

Thanks for clearing that up b/c I thought you said you did things to ensure that daughters have the same opportunities as sons, That's a kind of helicoptering to me but don't take my word for it, Lol. 

 


 


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Thu, 02-28-2013 - 7:36pm
Thardy, please edit your post to remove personal information. I've given no one here permission to use my name on this message board.

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