Marriage equality argument

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Marriage equality argument
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Tue, 03-26-2013 - 8:21pm

So the sole argument against marriage equality is that marriage is for procreation? Where exactly does that leave menopausal women? Or men with ED? Or the infertile? 

I can not believe we are STILL having this discussion in 2013. I have noticed that it is generational though--many of boomers I know are against it. Gen Xers like myself and younger are generally in favor...

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 12:58pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>And furthermore, The federal government is already broke and that's b/c too many people take advantage of entitlements!  I hope drastic changes get made by the time my kids are ready to make decisions for themselves, Marriage doesn't need to be one of those entitlements.</p>

What, are you now saying that no one should have the right to get married?  That people getting married is what's breaking the government?  What entitlements should people give up: Social Security?  Veteran's benefits?  Socialized education?

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Registered: 02-24-2009
Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:00pm
"Do stop cherry picking posts and taking them out of context." ---------- If you are talking to me, I quoted your entire post. Are you now saying that you do NOT see marriage as one of those entitlements empoverishing the federal government?
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:00pm

DH buys family coverage through his work, Yes. We don't prove we are married though, The number of dependents pretty much qualifies that. Uncle Sam could do that too. And if a tax auditor was really concerned whether there were 5 of us here they could knock on our door to check, Big government at work and all.

 


 


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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:02pm
"DH buys family insurance coverage through his work, Yes. We don't prove we are married though," ------------ Are you serious? He can't buy that insurance unless you are married. Surely you know that? If I am working, I can't just claim my friend from across the street on my policy.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:04pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>DH buys family coverage through his work, Yes. We don't prove we are married though, The number of dependents pretty much qualifies that. Uncle Sam could do that too. And if a tax auditor was really concerned whether there were 5 of us here they could knock on our door to check, Big government at work and all.</p>

Oh, I am pretty sure that at some point in the insurance process you do have to show that you are married, and the number of dependents has nothing to do with that.  Pretty sure that when DH added you as a dependent, he had to show either a federal tax form or your marriage certificate. You usually even have to prove that the kids are legally yours, either with a birth certificate, or adoption papers, to claim the kids as dependents.  I just filed tuition reimbursement forms, and guess what -- I had to show them a copy of the birth certificate.

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:06pm
You conveniently disregarded other posts tho which contradict what you wrote mops.

 

 

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:07pm
"A lot of politics seriously funny (pun intended.. !) No, I don't need governmnet to tell me how to have a family or what a family should look like nor do we need them so my husband and I can record our taxes a certain way, Remove it, so what! And why stop at gay rights, Why not equal rights for my sister and other single people who live a solitary life? IOW, Why should marriage be a privleged right separate from other human rights? Heck, Law makers can't even decide if gay rights falls under human rights or civil rights, Two different things FYI. Let's at least get that cleared up before any law gets passed! " ------------- Do you even understand the stuff that you write? What rights are single people being denied?
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:08pm
"You conveniently disregarded other posts tho which contradict what you wrote mops." ------------ No, I read the whole thread. If you feel something has been overlooked, please explain what it is.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:09pm
"And you know what that means, Yes, Separation of church and state." ---------------- Do you know what that means? That neither your church, or any other church should determine the rights of others (outside of the church).
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:09pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>There are no automatic freebies I get as a married woman! And no, You are wrong that I can walk in to any hospital b/c I'm his next of kin, No more than you would if your dear spouse was dying!</p>

Ever heard of:
-- Social Security survivor benefits?
-- employment assistance and transitional services for spouses of members being separated from military service??
-- continued commissary privileges??
--  joint filing of bankruptcy?
-- joint parenting rights, such as access to children's school records?

 

there are 1100+ more of these ... that  YOU get because your spouse has a penis and you do not. 

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