Marriage equality argument

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Marriage equality argument
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Tue, 03-26-2013 - 8:21pm

So the sole argument against marriage equality is that marriage is for procreation? Where exactly does that leave menopausal women? Or men with ED? Or the infertile? 

I can not believe we are STILL having this discussion in 2013. I have noticed that it is generational though--many of boomers I know are against it. Gen Xers like myself and younger are generally in favor...

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:11pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>And furthermore, The federal government is already broke and that's b/c too many people take advantage of entitlements!  I hope drastic changes get made by the time my kids are ready to make decisions for themselves, Marriage doesn't need to be one of those entitlements.</p>

Well, if you're so incensed adn passionate about this, why don't you give up all your tax, health insurance, social security and other benefits that YOU WILL receive by virtue of being married to your husband? Surely you'd love to save the government that money, right?

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:13pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>DH buys family coverage through his work, Yes. We don't prove we are married though, The number of dependents pretty much qualifies that. Uncle Sam could do that too. And if a tax auditor was really concerned whether there were 5 of us here they could knock on our door to check, Big government at work and all.</p>

But that coverage he buys, covers YOU - becaause you are his spouse and his dependent.  If your spouse were another woman, you'd have to go buy your own private health insurance.

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:13pm

<<The government ALLOWS church to decide?  Lol, No!  The church doesn't look to the governmnet for permission to practice the way they do. >>

Except of course for their tax free status and you know, if they break the law. 

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:16pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
Such sensational news you know, CNN had a report just last night about marriage equality.. Why don't we just remove government intrusion all together? It's far better to keep this a political issue I guess, Equal signs for all, Lol!

When a government practices and passes laws that support inequality then it becomes a political issue.

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:16pm
"Take away a marriage entitlement, " ---------- Do you mean that everyone should buy their own personal insurance, for example?
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:17pm

An actual birth certificate proving citizenship and all is a pretty important thing IMO, In these times anyway. But about what you don't know in how my husband signs up for insurance, No, That's updated every year and he has never had to pull out our marriage license to satisfy enrollment. Gay unions get to do the same thing which is cool, But which also takes me back to my statement this morning... Take away a marriage provision, Perhaps that will enable my sister, my own children down the road rights we limit so much now.

 


 


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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:17pm
Jams, btw, about citizenship, gays can't sponsor their spouses for citizenship either.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:19pm
I'm already a pretty fiscal conservative, I won't debate that with you tho.

 


 


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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:19pm
Good summing up of the issues http://www.colbertnation.com/full-episodes/thu-march-28-2013-robert-lustig
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:19pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>A lot of politics seriously funny (pun intended.. !) No, I don't need governmnet to tell me how to have a family or what a family should look like nor do we need them so my husband and I can record our taxes a certain way, Remove it, so what!  And why stop at gay rights, Why not equal rights for my sister and other single people who live a solitary life?  IOW, Why should marriage be a privleged right separate from other human rights?  Heck, Law makers can't even decide if gay rights falls under human rights or civil rights, Two different things FYI.  Let's at least get that cleared up before any law gets passed! </p><p>I love you Katie but we have very different views here!&lt;3</p><p> </p><p> </p>

You seriously don't believe in equal rights?   Do you really not believe that as a married person you don't have more rights and privileges than those who are not allowed to marry?  If you believe that, I suggest you do some research....and quickly because the lack of understanding of this issue is huge then.

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