Marriage equality argument

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Marriage equality argument
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Tue, 03-26-2013 - 8:21pm

So the sole argument against marriage equality is that marriage is for procreation? Where exactly does that leave menopausal women? Or men with ED? Or the infertile? 

I can not believe we are STILL having this discussion in 2013. I have noticed that it is generational though--many of boomers I know are against it. Gen Xers like myself and younger are generally in favor...

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:21pm

Let me try again.  I live in a state that recognizes marriage equality so yes, in this state I can share insurance with my wife.  But if I moved to say Texas I could not.  period.  my marriage is not legal in Texas.   you and your DH have moved quite a bit IIRC... and you were married in every state you moved to no matter what.  I will not be.  I can not move to Savanah like my wife would like to without giving up any shred of what legal rights we have as a married couple. Can you even imagine what this is like?  Can you even imagine wht it's like to have states VOTE on whether you can be married or not?   Imagine if the reverse were true ... if gay marriage was the norm and you were watching entire populations go to the polls to decide if you and your husband REALLY had the right to be married.  Do you really not get it? really? b/c I like you J .. I've always liked you.. and you see my FB page daily, we comment on each others kids, we support each other and yet you REALLY don't think my marriage deserves the same rights as yours? really?

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:21pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
Oh bord, don't confuse constitutional rights for politics!

Without a constitution there wouldn't be politics.

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:20pm
"I'm already a pretty fiscal conservative," ----------- So am I. That has absolutely zero to do with gay marriage, and I am completely stumped as to how you think it does.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:19pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>A lot of politics seriously funny (pun intended.. !) No, I don't need governmnet to tell me how to have a family or what a family should look like nor do we need them so my husband and I can record our taxes a certain way, Remove it, so what!  And why stop at gay rights, Why not equal rights for my sister and other single people who live a solitary life?  IOW, Why should marriage be a privleged right separate from other human rights?  Heck, Law makers can't even decide if gay rights falls under human rights or civil rights, Two different things FYI.  Let's at least get that cleared up before any law gets passed! </p><p>I love you Katie but we have very different views here!&lt;3</p><p> </p><p> </p>

You seriously don't believe in equal rights?   Do you really not believe that as a married person you don't have more rights and privileges than those who are not allowed to marry?  If you believe that, I suggest you do some research....and quickly because the lack of understanding of this issue is huge then.

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:19pm
Good summing up of the issues http://www.colbertnation.com/full-episodes/thu-march-28-2013-robert-lustig
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:19pm
I'm already a pretty fiscal conservative, I won't debate that with you tho.

 


 


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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:17pm
Jams, btw, about citizenship, gays can't sponsor their spouses for citizenship either.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:17pm

An actual birth certificate proving citizenship and all is a pretty important thing IMO, In these times anyway. But about what you don't know in how my husband signs up for insurance, No, That's updated every year and he has never had to pull out our marriage license to satisfy enrollment. Gay unions get to do the same thing which is cool, But which also takes me back to my statement this morning... Take away a marriage provision, Perhaps that will enable my sister, my own children down the road rights we limit so much now.

 


 


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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:16pm
"Take away a marriage entitlement, " ---------- Do you mean that everyone should buy their own personal insurance, for example?
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:16pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
Such sensational news you know, CNN had a report just last night about marriage equality.. Why don't we just remove government intrusion all together? It's far better to keep this a political issue I guess, Equal signs for all, Lol!

When a government practices and passes laws that support inequality then it becomes a political issue.

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