Marriage equality argument

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Marriage equality argument
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Tue, 03-26-2013 - 8:21pm

So the sole argument against marriage equality is that marriage is for procreation? Where exactly does that leave menopausal women? Or men with ED? Or the infertile? 

I can not believe we are STILL having this discussion in 2013. I have noticed that it is generational though--many of boomers I know are against it. Gen Xers like myself and younger are generally in favor...

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 7:03pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
No peach, Turn on your critical thinking.. Why is it a marriage should be a separate right than those who live single/solitary lives? Remove it all together is my thought on the subjct, What's yours? Do you even have one or do you only see this as an equal right vs biblical right issue?

Well duh, because they have chosen not to live single/separate lives.  Two people who have specifically chosen to be there for each have certain rights under the law that allows one to speak for the other.  Two people have chosen to join together, do you not remember your own marriage vows?   Really, you are married and have tons of rights simply because you are married, why deny others?  

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Registered: 11-14-2011
Fri, 03-29-2013 - 6:57pm

"Turn on your critical thinking..
Seriously? That's laughable coming form you, but thanks for the tip."

I take that back.  Knowing that you simply mimic what you hear (or read) without understanding it actually makes this statement kind of sad.

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 6:32pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
I really don't know, How many gay priests are there.. Is this something you're talking about in graduate school regina? Chilling really! What sites support your research? Thanks..

Why would I discuss homosexual priests in graduate school? I did a little research for you though. From Wiki: Evidence from several studies has shown that there are higher than average numbers of homosexual men (active and non-active) within the Catholic priesthood and higher orders; estimates presented in Donald B. Cozzens' book The Changing Face of the Priesthood range from 23–58%.[6]

There is this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9892743/Too-many-priests-preach-truth-but-live-a-lie.html

And this: http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=20565

This: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/10/father-bernard-lynch-gay-catholic-priest-talks_n_1661887.html

And this: http://www.alternet.org/belief/why-homophobic-catholic-church-filled-closeted-gay-priests

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 6:25pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
No peach, Turn on your critical thinking.. Why is it a marriage should be a separate right than those who live single/solitary lives? Remove it all together is my thought on the subjct, What's yours? Do you even have one or do you only see this as an equal right vs biblical right issue?

Totally lost here.  People are born single, but some of them get married.  When they get married, they enter into a legal partnership.  Some enter into Holy Matrimony or have their ceremony/union religiously blessed. Single people don't enter into a legal partnership.  Are you saying that since single people don't have a legal partner that no one should?  That, for instance, if there is no husband/wife, the parent remains the "next of kin" for legal purposes for a single person, that a married woman ought not to have her husband as "next of kin?"  It should remain the father?

I understand that you may have religious qualms about homosexual behavior.  You may also have religious qualms about divorce and remarriage. There are prohibitions about both in the Bible.  There are many people who are civilly married who are not considered married in the eyes of the Church.  Why can't gay marriages be like that -- recognized by the state, but not by the church?




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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 6:25pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
Ok, I'll take that this is a glimpse of real life and we're all judgemental, bigoted folks b/c it seriously does take one to know one... That's what MIL says anyway and she's always right.

It isn't judgemental to call a spade a spade. Or in this specific case, calling someone who thinks gays don't deserve the same rights as straights a bigot. I call it like I see it. I'm not the one spewing intolerance, Jam. I'm really not judgemental at all, unless you're a moron. I have very little tolerance for abject stupidity...

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Registered: 11-14-2011
Fri, 03-29-2013 - 6:08pm
"Ok, I'll take that this is a glimpse of real life and we're all judgemental, bigoted folks b/c it seriously does take one to know one... That's what MIL says anyway and she's always right." --------- You're kidding right?
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Registered: 11-14-2011
Fri, 03-29-2013 - 6:05pm

Turn on your critical thinking..
Seriously?  That's laughable coming form you, but thanks for the tip.

Why is it a marriage should be a separate right than those who live single/solitary lives?  Remove it all together is my thought on the subjct,
So, you are opposed to having any marrital rights?  You are willing to give them all up.....everything that's already been stated in this thread, like next of kinship, insurance, inhertance, etc?

What's yours?
My thoughts on the subject is that ALL people, regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation should have the SAME rights when it comes to marriage.

Do you even have one or do you only see this as an equal right vs biblical right issue? 
I am not sure what you are asking.  I do not consider equal rights under the law to be a biblical issue at all.

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Registered: 10-23-2001
Fri, 03-29-2013 - 5:59pm
Ok, I'll take that this is a glimpse of real life and we're all judgemental, bigoted folks b/c it seriously does take one to know one... That's what MIL says anyway and she's always right.

 


 


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Registered: 10-23-2001
Fri, 03-29-2013 - 5:55pm
No peach, Turn on your critical thinking.. Why is it a marriage should be a separate right than those who live single/solitary lives? Remove it all together is my thought on the subjct, What's yours? Do you even have one or do you only see this as an equal right vs biblical right issue?

 


 


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Registered: 11-14-2011
Fri, 03-29-2013 - 5:51pm
While you're answering questions....can we go back to the one I asked earlier, the one you still have not answered.... What rights are single people being denied?

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