Marriage equality argument

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Marriage equality argument
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Tue, 03-26-2013 - 8:21pm

So the sole argument against marriage equality is that marriage is for procreation? Where exactly does that leave menopausal women? Or men with ED? Or the infertile? 

I can not believe we are STILL having this discussion in 2013. I have noticed that it is generational though--many of boomers I know are against it. Gen Xers like myself and younger are generally in favor...

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Avatar for jamblessedthree
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 12:42pm

There are no automatic freebies I get as a married woman! And no, You are wrong that I can walk in to any hospital b/c I'm his next of kin, No more than you would if your dear spouse was dying!

 


 


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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 12:41pm
"Where is love a constitutional right? It's not but it can be found in the ten commandments... And you know what that means, Yes, Separation of church and state." -------------- If you get really sick, then your husband will be able to take charge of your care, because he is next of kin, by virtue of marriage. There are laws that govern this. If Bea gets sick and she can't be married to her wife, then her wife can't be there for her at such a time, because the law doesn't cover that. THAT is the issue.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 12:39pm

Jam: "No, I don't need governmnet to tell me how to have a family or what a family should look like nor do we need them so my husband and I can record our taxes a certain way, Remove it, so what!"

So are you saying that there should be no special rights or protections for married people? No inheritance regulations making it possible for you to inherit your spouse, for example, without paying inheritance tax, no deductions for dependents, no shared property etc? It should be purely a religious matter in your view?

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 12:36pm

um... actually I think it is our children's generation that will finally burst through this foolishness, they don't see this as a big deal and they are the change that will happen.

and "what I call"  equal rights?  um. the right to be considered my wife's next of kin? the right to make medical decisions for each other without carrying a briefcase of legal documents? the right to move to any state we want to and still be considered married no matter where we go? the right to leave money and property to a surviving spouse without it being taxed as though it had been left by a neighbor?   The right to check the "married" box on my federal income taxes?    those are not "what I call" equal rights.. those ARE equal rights.. and you and your husband got them automatically the day you got your marriage license.  I have a marrige license too. yet I have none of those rights.   So explain equality to me again please.

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 12:31pm

Rationale about marriage has and will continue to change over the years.  What will be interesting to see is how my childrens' generation responds, Marriage rates are already on the decline. And a declining population may just mean changes to what you call = rights.

 

 

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 12:09pm
By the way, "love" isn't really a huge part of the Ten Commandments. God assures us of his steadfast love in the first commandment. Marriage isn't mentioned at all until the last commandment, and that is where God basically tells us that our neighbors' wives and our neighbors' asses are none of our business.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 11:56am
Love is not a constitutional right and has nothing to do with civil law. Equal protection under the law IS a constitutional right, and there is no rational basis for the fact that you and I enjoy legal rights and economic privileges as married women that Katie does not. Nine whatsoever.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 11:54am

so you think it is fine that my wife and daughter and I don't get treated equally in the eyes of our government..? wow.. I really didnt expect that

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 11:51am

Where is love a constitutional right? It's not but it can be found in the ten commandments... And you know what that means, Yes, Separation of church and state.

 

 

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 11:40am
How can you love someone like Katie and yet tell her that her family does not deserve the same civil rights yours enjoys, Jambles?

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