Marriage equality argument

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Marriage equality argument
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Tue, 03-26-2013 - 8:21pm

So the sole argument against marriage equality is that marriage is for procreation? Where exactly does that leave menopausal women? Or men with ED? Or the infertile? 

I can not believe we are STILL having this discussion in 2013. I have noticed that it is generational though--many of boomers I know are against it. Gen Xers like myself and younger are generally in favor...

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 11:37am
Actually you do need government to tell you how you can and cannot file on your taxes, Jambles. Who else is going to regulate tax imposition and collection. And Constitutional rights ARE a political issue. The constitution did not arrive via fax from heaven. It was written in a political assembly, adopted by political means, and amended through political means. There is no constitution outside of politics.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 11:32am
Oh bord, don't confuse constitutional rights for politics!

 

 

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 11:30am

A lot of politics seriously funny (pun intended.. !) No, I don't need governmnet to tell me how to have a family or what a family should look like nor do we need them so my husband and I can record our taxes a certain way, Remove it, so what!  And why stop at gay rights, Why not equal rights for my sister and other single people who live a solitary life?  IOW, Why should marriage be a privleged right separate from other human rights?  Heck, Law makers can't even decide if gay rights falls under human rights or civil rights, Two different things FYI.  Let's at least get that cleared up before any law gets passed! 

I love you Katie but we have very different views here!<3

 

 

 

 

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Registered: 01-08-2009
Fri, 03-29-2013 - 11:28am
A civil marriage contract is not the same as the sacrament of Holy Matrimony. Never has been, never will be. I don't see what is confusing about that. And people who are treating discrimination like some big funny joke are not doing themselves any favors.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 10:37am

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>You aren't familiar with the tenets of my church peach. I don't share your experience/opinions about fantatical faithfuls either.</p>

Equal rights is a legal matter.   While one would hope that church going people would be supportive and accepting of equal rights, it has nothing to do with the tenets of your church.  Your church is free to continue to discriminate and judge.

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 9:32am

Are you really LOL ing? at equality for all of us?  you know me.. we are friends.  are you really laughing that I want the same rights for my family that you have for yours?  really?

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 9:15am

emptynester2009 wrote:
Do you as a non working SAH mom really want to give up all of the legal rights that "government intrusion" has given you?   Like  the rights of community property, the right to Social Security under your DH's payments, the right to make medical decision for your DH if need be,  the right to be claimed as an exception your joint income taxes even thought you provided none of the income.</span></p><p><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:large">I don't want to give those up.  I also do not think they should be denied to others.  </span></p><p><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:large">As long as their are legal perks to marriage it is straight discimination to not allow that right to some. </span></p><p><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:large"><br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:large"></span></p>

I think you misunderstand her.  She wants all those rights for herself; she simply wishes to deny them to others.

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 9:12am

jamblessedthree wrote:
Such sensational news you know, CNN had a report just last night about marriage equality.. Why don't we just remove government intrusion all together? It's far better to keep this a political issue I guess, Equal signs for all, Lol!

Do you as a non working SAH mom really want to give up all of the legal rights that "government intrusion" has given you?   Like  the rights of community property, the right to Social Security under your DH's payments, the right to make medical decision for your DH if need be,  the right to be claimed as an exception your joint income taxes even thought you provided none of the income.

I don't want to give those up.  I also do not think they should be denied to others. 

As long as their are legal perks to marriage it is straight discimination to not allow that right to some.


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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 9:02am
Such sensational news you know, CNN had a report just last night about marriage equality.. Why don't we just remove government intrusion all together? It's far better to keep this a political issue I guess, Equal signs for all, Lol!

 


 


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Registered: 08-22-2009
Fri, 03-29-2013 - 9:02am

 Lol, No!  The church doesn't look to the governmnet for permission to practice the way they do. </p>[/quote]

That is my point.  If  churches never had to ask permission on who could marry in their churches  in the past this will not change things.



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