Marriage equality argument

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Marriage equality argument
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Tue, 03-26-2013 - 8:21pm

So the sole argument against marriage equality is that marriage is for procreation? Where exactly does that leave menopausal women? Or men with ED? Or the infertile? 

I can not believe we are STILL having this discussion in 2013. I have noticed that it is generational though--many of boomers I know are against it. Gen Xers like myself and younger are generally in favor...

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 8:51am
Yes, That is a shame. Really.

 


 


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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 8:47am

You aren't familiar with the tenets of my church peach. I don't share your experience/opinions about fantatical faithfuls either.

 


 


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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 8:40am

emptynester2009 wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">jamblessedthree</em> wrote:</div>It really doesn't matter to me where the government goes here and I agree that the divide is more generational. Just don't tell me and MY church that it should follow suit, I don't think gays will ever have the right to marry in my church.</blockquote></p><p><span style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size:medium">The government already allows your (and other churches) to decide who can and cannot marry in their churches.  I do not see that changing.  </span></p>

The government ALLOWS church to decide?  Lol, No!  The church doesn't look to the governmnet for permission to practice the way they do. 

 


 


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Thu, 03-28-2013 - 2:37pm

My dutch friend family was excommunicated from thier church because they didnt want to volunetary donate 10% of their yearly salary to the church...

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Wed, 03-27-2013 - 5:14pm

rollmops2009 wrote:
"Y'all are free to excommunicate whoever you want...the rest of Christendom will carry on just fine, loving God with all their hearts, minds, soul and strength, and loving their neighbors as themselves." ------------------ Dh's grandma was excommunicated for not bringing up her kids Catholic. Strictly speaking she was not supposed to take communion. She remained a Catholic all her life all the same, and I always thought it was a shame that she was made to feel bad in this way.

My grandfather was excommunicated for marrying my divorced grandmother. That's how I would up UCC...:)

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Wed, 03-27-2013 - 5:03pm

In Sweden same sex couple can marry in the Protestant church, I had a friend who did it and ooh it was stunning and so much love.

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Wed, 03-27-2013 - 1:09pm

emptynester2009</em> wrote:</div>The government already allows your (and other churches) to decide who can and cannot marry in their churches.  I do not see that changing. 

Exactly.  Nobody makes the Catholic Church or any other religious organiziation marry any straight couples.  

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Wed, 03-27-2013 - 10:39am
"Here's another thought... for all my straight married friends out there who are "on the fence" about marriage equality. Suppose you and your spouse want to relocate. You can go to any state in the country and settle down and you know what? you're still married! my wife and I can not. If we were to relocate to one of the Carolina's as so many northern new Englanders seem to like to do, we would not be considered married there. We would be simply roomates. Which is how the Federal government currently sees us. And I think about this all. the. time. Every time I file "single" on my income taxes and every time we travel and I worry about one of us getting sick and the other not be recognized as our next of kin, and every time we worry about one of us passing away and the other being left with debts and tax burdens that wouldn't happen to a straight married couple. Imagine what that would be like for you and your spouse.. and imagine all the freedoms and privileges and rights you take for granted. Now tell me why we don't deserve them too." ------------------------------------- This.
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Wed, 03-27-2013 - 10:32am

I just put this on my FB page-- just to take the religious aspect out of it--

"Here's another thought... for all my straight married friends out there who are "on the fence" about marriage equality. Suppose you and your spouse want to relocate. You can go to any state in the country and settle down and you know what? you're still married! my wife and I can not. If we were to relocate to one of the Carolina's as so many northern new Englanders seem to like to do, we would not be considered married there. We would be simply roomates. Which is how the Federal government currently sees us. And I think about this all. the. time. Every time I file "single" on my income taxes and every time we travel and I worry about one of us getting sick and the other not be recognized as our next of kin, and every time we worry about one of us passing away and the other being left with debts and tax burdens that wouldn't happen to a straight married couple. Imagine what that would be like for you and your spouse.. and imagine all the freedoms and privileges and rights you take for granted. Now tell me why we don't  deserve them too."

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Wed, 03-27-2013 - 10:19am

bordwithyou wrote:
Y'all are free to excommunicate whoever you want...the rest of Christendom will carry on just fine, loving God with all their hearts, minds, soul and strength, and loving their neighbors as themselves.

Amen.

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