Marriage equality argument

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Marriage equality argument
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Tue, 03-26-2013 - 8:21pm

So the sole argument against marriage equality is that marriage is for procreation? Where exactly does that leave menopausal women? Or men with ED? Or the infertile? 

I can not believe we are STILL having this discussion in 2013. I have noticed that it is generational though--many of boomers I know are against it. Gen Xers like myself and younger are generally in favor...

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 3:00pm
Then leave the thread, I'll follow you Katie. Gay rights among other poltiical issues are hugely debatable. You want this to get personal now? Wow! I find calling my church a judgemental one offensive and being called a bigot is offensive. This isn't about you it's about the issue and there will always be two sides of it just like other issues, Stand up for what you believe in but don't convince me of it.

 

 

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 2:52pm

BeaArthurisMyReligion wrote:
<p>Can you even grasp how hurtful it is Jams when you put "rights" in quotation marks?  Can you even grasp that it feels like your kicking me in the stomach when you ask what "rights" "gay rights" fall under?   They fall under HUMAN rights. I am a human being.  you KNOW me.    Do you really think It's cool to be all "ha ha ha silly gays and their 'rights'?"   really?</p><p>I am so hurt right now... I really thought more highly of you </p>

She hasn't said anything on this thread that surprised me, unfortunately. 

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 2:50pm

Article on the home page of iV today..... http://www.ivillage.com/supreme-court-considers-gay-marriage-case/6-a-530493

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 2:45pm

Can you even grasp how hurtful it is Jams when you put "rights" in quotation marks?  Can you even grasp that it feels like your kicking me in the stomach when you ask what "rights" "gay rights" fall under?   They fall under HUMAN rights. I am a human being.  you KNOW me.    Do you really think It's cool to be all "ha ha ha silly gays and their 'rights'?"   really?

I am so hurt right now... I really thought more highly of you

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 2:15pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>Free public education is my childrens' right b/c a daddy and mommy live under one roof? Please!</p><p>ETA ALL children are deserving of a free education regardless of family dynamic, And that's a HUMAN right.  Remind me again what gay rights falls under...  Thank You and have a  nice one. </p>

Gay rights are also HUMAN RIGHTS. Why do you need a reminder? Gay and Lesbians are human. Do you thing they are a different species?

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 2:07pm

bordwithyou wrote:
<You're not going to do that.  You are pretty sure that your kids are entitled to a free public education, including special education  (so am I, by the way).  You are not going to pull them from that and put them in private school.  You are not going to turn down the mortgage deduction or the child deduction on your taxes.  You are not going to refuse to collect Social Security.  </p>

Or refuse to drive on the highways that federal tax dollars paid for, or refuse the special education services/IEP services that you receive for your dd. and are you going to house the serial rapist that would be free to rape you or your kids because the federal taxes aren't keeping him locked up?

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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 2:05pm
"You aren't familiar with the tenets of my church peach. I don't share your experience/opinions about fantatical faithfuls either." ------- One, you have no idea how familiar I am with the "tenets" of your faith. Two, you don't even know what my faith is, so you have no idea whether or not we share experience /opinions about it. Three, it doesn't matter what my faith is, or yours....neither one has a place in determining the law and rights of others.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 2:03pm

<<ETA ALL children are deserving of a free education regardless of family dynamic, And that's a HUMAN right.  Remind me again what gay rights falls under...  Thank You and have a  nice one. >>

Human rights.  All children and all people are also deserving of having their parents or spouses treated as a family member under the law regardless of family dynamics.  Really.


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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:59pm
peachy, don't tempt me now.
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Fri, 03-29-2013 - 1:58pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p>An actual birth certificate proving citizenship and all is a pretty important thing IMO, In these times anyway. But about what you don't know in how my husband signs up for insurance, No, That's updated every year and he has never had to pull out our marriage license to satisfy enrollment. Gay unions get to do the same thing which is cool, But which also takes me back to my statement this morning... Take away a marriage provision, Perhaps that will enable my sister, my own children down the road rights we limit so much now.</p>

It really doesn't matter how your husband signs up for his insurance, but it would be FRAUD if he signed up for spousal insurance for you and you were not his spouse. Health insurance companies will deny any claims, once discovered.

My company recognizes same-sex or domestic partners as eligible for family plans, but the federal government requires that the employee spouse report those benefits as taxable income and tax exempt for spouse and children. So gay unions don't do the same thing.

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