Mental health fluff

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Mental health fluff
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Tue, 10-22-2013 - 11:12am

Since some questions were left unanswered on the other thread, here goes:

1. Do you have personal experience, yourself or someone close to you, of going through a mental illness, either severe like bipolar or schizophrenia, or less serious like anxiety or PPD that required treatment?

2. Do you consider it stigmatizing to have a mentally ill family member? IOW, if you have been in this situation, is it something you talk to others about or do you try to avoid the subject?

3. Do you consider mental illness to be a controversial subject, and if so, in what way?

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Wed, 11-20-2013 - 3:33pm

My sister was just recently diagnosed bi-polar after having a terrifying psychotic manic episode.  My family is now having to face her mental illness head on and try to get her some help.  I believe the stigma around mental inllness is why my parents waited so long to seek help for her.  She finally got to a point where her behaviour could not be ignored.

I would love to hear from other people who have experienced bi-polar success stories.  I guess the big thing is that she does not want to take her medication.  This makes sense...she is manic right now and feeling on top of the world.  How do we help someone come to terms with their own mental illness?  It's such a delicate subject... 

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Tue, 10-29-2013 - 2:22pm
"one of my best friends in the whole world was 17 years cancer free.. and it came back and metastasized to her bones and killed her in 6 months." ------ Yep, unfortunately that has to be part of the picture. It is not to be a total downer, but just the reality. Thanks to new and better treatments, patients are living longer and better and many, many women who have been through breast cancer will achieve a long life and a non-cancer death.The other aspect of this is that in order to live longer/better, many of us never finish treatment. Which is another reason to think of breast cancer as a chronic disease. In my case, for example, I take a pill every day to keep the cancer dormant. It is working and I am very grateful that I have this little, yellow pill to take, but I will be taking it for at least 10 years, and possibly longer, unless they come up with something better in the meantime.
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Tue, 10-29-2013 - 1:00pm

'No evidence of said illness doesn't make someone a survivor?  Well, golly, tell that to many many women who are five, ten, twenty + years cancer free. '

one of my best friends in the whole world was 17 years cancer free.. and it came back and metastasized to her bones and killed her in 6 months.  She was one of the first to tell you that the term 'cancer survivor' is inaccurate in most cases...and that the spectre of cancer never goes away... she was saying that years before her cancer came back...

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Mon, 10-28-2013 - 2:07pm
"and they have a form where you can ask to have $10 donated to a related cause instead." ----- That's a good idea.
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Mon, 10-28-2013 - 1:35pm

rollmops2009 wrote:
"If I'm going to wear a tshirt to support somebody with a MI I'm also going to wear a tshirt to support somebody with cancer, diabetes or another illness too." ------ If it just about support, take the ten bucks you would spend on the T-shirt and donate it to an appropriate research foundation. If it is about raising awareness, figure out something that will actually be meaningful and worthwhile.

Tangentially relevant. The organization through which I donate blood usually has a free t-shirt, zoo tickets, etc for donors.  Sometimes I take the freebie (especially the zoo tickets!), but often I don't ... and they have a form where you can ask to have $10 donated to a related cause instead.  (I forget what the cause is ... and their website keeps crashing today).

 

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Mon, 10-28-2013 - 1:31pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
I don't thik there's ever too much awareness or education about any one subject or illness like talked about here. When you limit it or compare one against another like mops is doing I think you hit a slippery slope, If I'm going to wear a tshirt to support somebody with a MI I'm also going to wear a tshirt to support somebody with cancer, diabetes or another illness too.

Well then you better be prepared to wear nothing but supporting t-shirts everyday ...

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Mon, 10-28-2013 - 1:00pm

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">bordwithyou</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;jamblessedthree&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class="quote-author"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;em class="placeholder"&amp;gt;rollmops2009&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt; wrote:&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;"There's a lot of what you write that comes off as hypocritical however," ------- Hypocritical? How so? Awareness will not bring a cure. That is the point I have tried to make all along. There are all kinds of events and organizations dedicated to breast cancer awareness. They spend a lot of money and effort on various kinds of pink fluff and pep rallies. None of that contributes to finding a cure. The money they spend could be better spent on actual research.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Who is they?   You are very critical of the pink foundation, even going as far as saying survivors really aren't survivors.  That comes across as ignorance to be quite honest.  But I understand your bias, If I could I'd like to see more awareness spread for type 1 diabetes, Too many people mistake it for type 2 and the two are completely different. &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here is an example of "they."  My son's high school band was invited to play at some rally/event for Breast Cancer Awareness.  They were required to pay an entry fee, and also to wear long-sleeved pink dress shirts.  I went all over town looking for one because it was short notice and October.   I ended up paying something like $35.00 for this shirt at Dillard's.   I think he has worn it twice.  I would have been happy to donate the money to something useful, but I resented spending $35.00 on what was basically a costume for the event. &lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>That's too bad you had to spend $35.00 for a shirt he won't wear again.  Why not donate it?  Maybe somebody can buy it second hand and wear it for the same kind of event again...  <br /><br />My kid didn't have to look very far to find something pink for her breast cancer awareness day at school.  But she's a girl. </p>

I'll probably let my younger one try to sell it on E-Bay, and if that doesn't work, we'll donate it to my church rummage sale.  I'm finally going through and re-doing the older one's old bedroom and trying to decide whether to store or get rid of the stuff he doesn't have room for right now.

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Mon, 10-28-2013 - 12:27pm
In my opinion, and in the opinion of many, many other women in the breast cancer community, it is not reasonable to use the term "survivor," under current circumstances. So, no, I am not ignorant of what others think, and I am not alone in my opinion. There are people who like the survivor term, and I am not ignorant of those opinions either. If it helps them and makes them feel good, great! ......... I already gave you examples, repeatedly, of how awareness of MI might be raised. I am not sure what the whole bit about "calling people out" and my brother etc means. It would be nice if you could clarify.
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Mon, 10-28-2013 - 12:27pm

rollmops2009 wrote:
Jams, until the person dies of something else, you can't know if the cancer will come back. In the meantime, I think it is more accurate and honest to say that the cancer is in remission or that the person is living with cancer. ...... I explained carefully why awareness campaigns for breast cancer and MI are different. It is simple: people ARE aware of breast cancer and the awareness money could be better spent on other stuff. WIth MI, awareness is still low, so it makes sense to spend money on awareness and education, ditto for the diabetes, as you mentioned. .......... So, that is not "bias," it is logic. I am glad we cleared that up. Now if you would kindly explain how my position is ignorant and hypocritical, then maybe we could clear those up too.

No evidence of said illness doesn't make someone a survivor?  Well, golly, tell that to many many women who are five, ten, twenty + years cancer free.  Really mops, Your ignorance is of others positions that are different than your own...  Tell me again how you want to raise more awareness for MI like that of your brother's...  Are these illnesses black and white to you? 

 


 


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Mon, 10-28-2013 - 12:08pm
Jams, until the person dies of something else, you can't know if the cancer will come back. In the meantime, I think it is more accurate and honest to say that the cancer is in remission or that the person is living with cancer. ...... I explained carefully why awareness campaigns for breast cancer and MI are different. It is simple: people ARE aware of breast cancer and the awareness money could be better spent on other stuff. WIth MI, awareness is still low, so it makes sense to spend money on awareness and education, ditto for the diabetes, as you mentioned. .......... So, that is not "bias," it is logic. I am glad we cleared that up. Now if you would kindly explain how my position is ignorant and hypocritical, then maybe we could clear those up too.

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