Mental health fluff

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Tue, 10-22-2013 - 11:12am

Since some questions were left unanswered on the other thread, here goes:

1. Do you have personal experience, yourself or someone close to you, of going through a mental illness, either severe like bipolar or schizophrenia, or less serious like anxiety or PPD that required treatment?

2. Do you consider it stigmatizing to have a mentally ill family member? IOW, if you have been in this situation, is it something you talk to others about or do you try to avoid the subject?

3. Do you consider mental illness to be a controversial subject, and if so, in what way?

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Wed, 10-23-2013 - 10:33am
"I said the similarities stopped at "illness" and just like I wouldn't say cancer is like diabetes I won't say mental illness is like one of those either." ------- Of course each illness has its particularities. However, it also seems to me that most chronic illnesses, whether cancer, diabetes, heart disease or mental illness, have many things in common beyond just being illnesses.
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Wed, 10-23-2013 - 10:46am

I think it's great the topic be opened up for discussion with people willing to discuss it.  I don't know that changes ignorance or admant/narrow viewpoints however.  Opening up a topic of conversation like this with somebody like MIL would probably hinder the cause b/c her views are so closed minded.  That is why, for us anyway, we've become very careful about what we do and don't share. 

 


 


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Wed, 10-23-2013 - 10:58am

that most chronic illnesses, whether cancer, diabetes, heart disease or mental illness, have many things in common beyond just being illnesses.

Another vague statement. But perhaps there are some public perceptions that overlap, I know you've brought up behaviors and odd looks. When we go out to eat DD2 has to inject herself with insulin when the food comes, She has gotten strange looks for that, even going as far as her asking she sit in a seat that faces the wall so nobody would "look at her", I don't know that's a door that needs to be opened up for others, It's not up to us to decide how others are going to react.  Those looks are not my DD's problem. 

 

 


 


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Wed, 10-23-2013 - 11:09am
"Opening up a topic of conversation like this with somebody like MIL would probably hinder the cause b/c her views are so closed minded. That is why, for us anyway, we've become very careful about what we do and don't share." ----------- That is really horrible, but I can understand why you leave it alone.
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Wed, 10-23-2013 - 11:13am
"Those looks are not my DD's problem." ------- Certainly not. But as you have just illustrated, people might look oddly at you whether it is an insulin syringe that causes it, a bald head or flat chest from cancer or odd behavior due to mental illness. In each case, I agree it is not the problem of the person dealing with the illness, or it shouldn't be at least. These chronic illnesses are also alike in that it is something you live with and manage. It is not something (usually) that you treat and are done with. Even with less serious cases, like mild depression or an early stage cancer, you are always at increased risk of it coming back.
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Wed, 10-23-2013 - 11:25am

That's probably why I like walks/rallies/marches for breast cancer, for diabetes, for NAMI and such. You are around like minded people that want to support the cause.  Even if they donate a dime you know their presense means something and that's far less exhausting than trying to change ignorance or closed mindedness.

 


 


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Wed, 10-23-2013 - 11:33am
"That's probably why I like walks/rallies/marches for breast cancer, for diabetes, for NAMI and such. You are around like minded people that want to support the cause." -------- Ok, I can see what you mean, but I admit that I don't really see the point of hanging around people who already get it. Those things often seem more like pep rallies, and often it is questionable what they accomplish.
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Wed, 10-23-2013 - 11:35am

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Explain the hard facts about mental illness mops. Where are others "misinformed" IYE? Genunine interest in where you are going here, Thanks.

Some "others" blame it on the parents of the MI person.  Some "others" think that it's all just a behavior issue and is willful on the part of the MI person.  Those are just a few examples.

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Wed, 10-23-2013 - 11:36am

rollmops2009 wrote:
"I let it go when she showed me a pic of somebody mentally retarded and said DD was just like that. That wasn't wisdom that was ignorance." ------- That is awful, and I agree that it is ignorant. I am sorry you had to deal with that and that it was not possible to make her understand. My whole argument has been that because so many people remain ignorant like that, it is important to talk about it and try to educate people.

Yes.  By not discussing it, it just give those ignorant folks more reason to keep believe what they (erroneously) believe.

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Wed, 10-23-2013 - 11:38am

jamblessedthree wrote:
<p><blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"><div class="quote-author"><em class="placeholder">savcal2011</em> wrote:</div>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="quote-msg quote-nest-1 odd"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-author"&gt;&lt;em class="placeholder"&gt;jamblessedthree&lt;/em&gt; wrote:&lt;/div&gt;I agree with this.  I know when DD was dx diabetes we were careful about who we shared the news with b/c the last thing we wanted was pity.  My family was supportive and my sister asked my permission to share it with others she knew.  I'd think of mental illness the same way. &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This statement confuses me.  In the other thread, you insisted that mental illness was *not* like any other disease.  Yet here you say you'd approach mental illness the way you would a diabetes dx.  How does that fit with your earlier statements?&lt;/p&gt;</blockquote></p><p>You weren't reading the other thread I wrote in then.  I said the similarities stopped at "illness" and just like I wouldn't say cancer is like diabetes I won't say mental illness is like one of those either.  You are welcome to refute or object to that, what it is that confuses you or that you don't agree with...  Explain how others are misinformed..</p><p> </p>

I think you and I are using different meanings of the word "like".  IMO, cancer is like diabetes is like cerebral palsy - not EXACTLY alike, but in some ways it is.  I think once we get past semantics, we're not disagreeing all that much.

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